EUR 45,000 damages for unauthorized use of line “featuring Rammstein”


“Apocalyptica” has to pay 45,000 Euros in damages for trademark infringement and naming rights before the Regional Court of Berlin to the group “Rammstein “.

For their album “Worlds Collide” from the year 2007, the Finnish cellist group Apocalyptica recorded with various guest musicians, including Till Lindemann, singer of the band “Rammstein “.

The album was then advertised by the line “featuring Rammstein”. This happened nationwide with ads in magazines, city light posters and stickers on recordings. Consent of the band “Rammstein” was not present.

This was settled by a proposal by the court, the parties agreed to the payment of 45,000 € as a reasonable royalty. The file number of the procedure is as follows: 16 O 570/08.



  1. Pilgrim Management will never miss a chance to get richer while doing absolutely nothing. Except for harassing Rammstein fans, of course, while the bandmembers are doing all the basics of Fialik’s job themselves AND take the blame for Emu’s screw-ups, which just never stop coming. But yes, PM loves to file lawsuits! Anyone remembers what _this_ site used to be called?
    (P.S. I couldn’t ‘read comment rules’, that page doesn’t load.)

  2. Do managers and bands suddenly not have anything to do with each other? Of course the band had something to do with it!

  3. It really isn’t the band’s decision to this. It is the Management’s. So no one should blame the band if they are angry at this accusation.

  4. Well there were other Guest singers on that album Like Corey tayler,
    If they put featuring Slipknot on that album Nobody would buy it 😉

    You get my point right?

  5. I like Apocalyptica but regardless of fault, Rammsteins name should have never been on that album

    It was not a bad move on Rammsteins part to ask for a small amount of compensation for use of their name where it was not supposed to be, especially since the damage had already been done.

    No one messes with Till and the boys, there is no one in the world I would defend as quickly and as over zealously as R+

    Till could go smack the pope for no reason, I would step in front of anyone who dare say he did wrong!


  6. Well, im getting that feeling thats it’s neither of their faults, and more of the record companies fault. why whould have it tooken 4 years for rammstein to suddenly do something about it? I mean yeah, Apocalyptica did use Rammstein instead of Till, and i wouldnt think that RAMMSTEIN would be at the least offended, considering everything they have done together. I dont know, thats my opinion.

  7. Ridiculous move.
    1) Need for it could have been avoided
    2) Actions could have been different
    3) Forget about any Rammstein (im sorry! TILL LINDEMANN) – Apocalyptica songs for a while at least

    All of this for EUR 45k? Cause of a misunderstanding?
    The R+ management should have let it slip.

    Could it be that R+ are slowly wrapping up their act? Someone, please assure me of the opposite…PLEASE…

  8. its not apocalypticas mistake, its rammsteins. they shouldve specified this earlier, plus. I wouldve jsut let it slide. this’ll cripple relations between these 2 bands, which have produced wonderful fruits before.
    damn rammsteins money hungry management.

  9. This is actually a little surprising. Considering the past that these two bands have with each other; what with the song covers and live performances together, you would think that Rammstein would let this one slide.

    I hope this won’t effect future songs that they could do together.

  10. WOW! that’s a big mistake from Apocalyptica.
    if they only would have said : Ft. Till Lindemann, there would be no problem.

    it’s sad too read this after all those beautiful performances with Rammstein…


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