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Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.
LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:
From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs
So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.
An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.
• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.
WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.
WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.
The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.
Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:
POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.
If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.
•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.
So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.
Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.
Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!
Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.
If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.
If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.
Use your creativity.
IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.
xTERNAL&MR_FLOOO
LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:
From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs
So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.
An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.
• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.
WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.
WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.
The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.
Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:
POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.
If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.
•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.
So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.
Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.
Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!
Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.
If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.
If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.
Use your creativity.
IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.
xTERNAL&MR_FLOOO
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Before show
I arrive at the venue (Palau Sant Jordi) at around 1:30 after dropping my stuff off in the hotel. There was already a good 300 people queuing to get in. The following 5 hours of waiting was absolute agony (I'm currently writing this review with the mother of all sunburns) with not a cloud in the sky and the temperature at 25ºC. Around 5:00, one of the security guys starts walking up and down the queue telling people that they were going to be letting us in an hour earlier than what was on the tickets, so he was telling us to throw away our bottles of water ... we didn't end up going in early, and now we had the wait without water either. 7:00 finally came around and we were let in, I was sprinting in to get as close to the front as possible.
Show
After a somewhat sub par Dj set by Joe Letz (I liked the songs but he came across as too arrogant for me to enjoy his set), the rest of the stage gets blocked off by a curtain. At 9:00, The show begins
-Intro/Ich Tu Dir Weh: The curtain pulls open to reveal 5 of the 6 band members with Till no where to be seen. the entire stage is flooded in smoke and blue lights as the band just stand there in silence ... And then, *BANG*, Pyro going off to the intro beat of Ich Tu Dir Weh. this repeats a couple of times as more instruments get added as it goes on (the main sample, guitars, ...). Once the main riff of the song kicks in, Sparks rain down from the top of the stage on to where Till would usually be standing, I look up in confusion, and get one hell of a surprise.
As the band continues to play the main riff of the song, Till get's lowered right down to the stage (the intro is obviously a call back to Live Aus Berlin) complete with a fluffy pink jacket. They perform the rest of the song as it appears on the album, which disapointed me somewhat, since I wished they would have performed the stunt from the last tour on this song.
-Wollt Ihr Das Bett In Flammen Sehen: A good old song I've been looking forward to seeing live Ever since they reintroduced it into their setlist in 2011. The part of the crowd I was in absolutely exploded when the main riff kicked in, everyone was jumping, headbanging, singing along, etc. This song was also the first song in the set to include fire, which was shooting out of the stage towards the end of the song amidst the chants of "RAMMSTEIN!".
-Keine Lust: With more or less the same live show that Rammstein have been using for the past 4 years (with the Co2 jets, sing along sections, same colour lights) there's not much I can really say about Keine Lust, other than it's Keine Lust
-Sehnsucht: Once again, it it is the same live show that Rammstein have been been using on this song since they started the MIG tour, but that said, it is still a very energetic song and got all the crowd in my section moving. One new effect that was added on was the red-coloured spark things (that Rammstein had been using on Waidmanns Heil during the LIFAD tour) dropping from the top of the stage just before the quiet section.
-Asche Zu Asche: Same as above, same show that they have been using on the tour up to now, Including the extended outro.
-Feuer Frei: Aside from the amount of noise made by the crowd the instant the intro kicked in, it the same show they've been doing for years now.... and it's still just as awesome as ever. Also, the first transluscent cell thing backdrop fell down right after this song to reveal a more industrial looking one (images of sheets of metal with giant scratches through them, kind of like Richards Signature guitar).
-Wiener Blut: Even though I saw the rehearsel setlist, at first, I thought they were going to be playing mutter instead of Wiener Blut (the sample sounded so much like the sample they used on Mutter), but aside from the band skipping the Gramophone intro, the song played very much like it did on the LIFAD tour, albeit without the laser babies or the pyro during the solo.
-Mein Teil: There's not really much I can say about Mein Teil. It's the same show they put on for the last leg of the tour, and it's still just as awesome ... I get the feeling alot of the songs from this show can be summed up like this.
-Mein Herz Brennt (Piano version): Probably the one of the highlights of the set for me, Flake came down to play on a rag-time looking piano, and not the grand piano that seemed to be in the preview video. Practically everyone in the venue was singing along with Till through out the whole song. Also, the light cross/box began to rise up during this song.
-Benzin: Really happy seeing this song return for the current leg of the tour, it's probably my favourite song of off Rosenrot. Show is the same as the LIFAD tour, with the petrol pump, lighting the "fan" on fire, etc.
-Du Riechst So Gut: Same show that they have been using on the tour up to now. Although, the intro sample went on for twice as long, which caught me off guard for a moment, and there was no special effect during the solo (no flaming guitars or the fire sleev things)
-Links, 2, 3, 4: Once again, the same thing that Rammstein has been doing for years. The false start they performed on the intro though completely caught everyone off guard, Just as the intro riff was about the kick in, the explosions go off, and all the lights then just go off. I was just there thinking "Electric go out or something", then out of no where, the band kicks right into the main riff, catching everyone by surprise. The cross/box of lights behind the stage begins to unfold intro the cross during this song.
-Du Hast: It's the same great sing-a-long of a song Rammstein has been performing for years, with the same stage show they were using on the last leg of the MIG tour, including the flamethrowers aimed at the band, and the fireworks running down the wire. This is also the first song where Rammstein used the Flamethrowers hidden in between the front row of Speakers and the stage, and it's also the point I realised how fucking hot fire is.
-Rammstein: After reading the Rehearsel show review, I'm sure this is the thing that all Rammstein fans were looking forward to at the show, since it was explained so badly, and after seeing it live, it is the most badass thing I've ever had the chance to see live. Both Richard and Paul have Flamethrowers mounted to the front of their guitars ( a bit hard to see, but you can see the flamethrower attached to Pauls guitar in the pic below), they then take in turns shooting flames in rythm to the song, all while playing the guitar. It ends with Till ushering the crowd to sing the start of the frist verse, before going "fuck that, it's time for ...".
-Buck Dich: For this song, the entire band (aside for Schneider) move down to the front of the stage to play the song as if the were doing it on the B-Stage from the last leg. During the Second chorus, as Till is humping Flake, the are slowly being lifted into the air on a scissor lift, before Till starts squirting all over the crowd from like 4 metres up. The most amazing thing about this is how while all this is going on, Flake is still playing he keyboard while on all fours. The song ends with Till smashing Flakes keyboard on the stage.
-Ohne Dich: Probably the worst song in the set for me. Played the same way it was during the Volkerball DVD, without the falling sparks.
-Sonne: After a short encore break, which felt like an eternity, the band return to the stage with the mother of all head bang songs. The intro felt odd, as it felt like Schneider was going to be doing the drum solo intro, as he was counting it in, but the all of a sudden, counting. And what's to be said about Sonne, It's fucking Sonne, if you aren't headbanging during this song, you aren't human. After the quiet bit, the cross in the back of the stage set alight and stays a light for the rest of the song (there was no fire shooting from the stage during the final chorus). Also, at the end, it appeared they were having some trouble extinguishing the fire on the cross, as security from the front of the stage were beind pulled away to help extinguish it (I'm guessing the extinguishers on the cross didn't come on properly, since if you look at videos, you can see they are on for the top arm, but are all off on the rest of it).
-Ich Will: Once again, the same thing that Rammstein has been doing for years. Throughtout the first half of the performance, there were security guys trying to extinguish the cross (if you look in the videos on youtube, you can see the cross gets lowered and people with extinguishers rushing it trying to get rid of the fire).
-Pussy: Still the same performance Rammstein have been doing since the song was first put in the setlist, but the confetti during the final chrous was white this time instead of red, yellow and black. The song ends and all the band come to the front to say their goodbyes, and then leave the stage. The crowd still holding out for "Te Quiero Puta" by chanting it, but the lights then come on, and it's over.
Last edited by projektion; 04-16-2013, 09:38 PM.
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Thanks, one thing I've noticed about the set is that it's a VERY festival centered set, such as no boat song (a lot of the festivals they are playing this year have a central divide through the crowd, so the boat wouldn't be particularly good to use), ich tu dir weh (to have the fireworks shoot up into the sky during the intro to really get people interested in the show who might not have been), Rammstein (mostly feels like the replacement to engel, since they can't use the wings on fesitval stages), etc.
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Originally posted by projektion View Post
Before show
at 25ºC. Around 5:00, one of the security guys starts walking up and down the queue telling people that they were going to be letting us in an hour earlier than what was on the tickets, so he was telling us to throw away our bottles of water ...
After a somewhat sub par Dj set by Joe Letz (I liked the songs but he came across as too arrogant for me to enjoy his set), the rest of the stage gets blocked off by a curtain. At 9:00, The show begins
-Intro/Ich Tu Dir Weh: The curtain pulls open to reveal 5 of the 6 band members with Till no where to be seen. the entire stage is flooded in smoke and blue lights as the band just stand there in silence ... And then, *BANG*, Pyro going off to the intro beat of Ich Tu Dir Weh. this repeats a couple of times as more instruments get added as it goes on (the main sample, guitars, ...). Once the main riff of the song kicks in, Sparks rain down from the top of the stage on to where Till would usually be standing, I look up in confusion, and get one hell of a surprise.
-Wollt Ihr Das Bett In Flammen Sehen: A good old song I've been looking forward to seeing live Ever since they reintroduced it into their setlist in 2011. The part of the crowd I was in absolutely exploded when the main riff kicked in, everyone was jumping, headbanging, singing along, etc. This song was also the first song in the set to include fire, which was shooting out of the stage towards the end of the song amidst the chants of "RAMMSTEIN!".
-Feuer Frei: Aside from the amount of noise made by the crowd the instant the intro kicked in, it the same show they've been doing for years now.... and it's still just as awesome as ever. Also, the first transluscent cell thing backdrop fell down right after this song to reveal a more industrial looking one (images of sheets of metal with giant scratches through them, kind of like Richards Signature guitar).
-Mein Teil: There's not really much I can say about Mein Teil. It's the same show they put on for the last leg of the tour, and it's still just as awesome ... I get the feeling alot of the songs from this show can be summed up like this.
-Mein Herz Brennt (Piano version): Probably the one of the highlights of the set for me, Flake came down to play on a rag-time looking piano, and not the grand piano that seemed to be in the preview video. Practically everyone in the venue was singing along with Till through out the whole song. Also, the light cross/box began to rise up during this song.
-Benzin: Really happy seeing this song return for the current leg of the tour, it's probably my favourite song of off Rosenrot. Show is the same as the LIFAD tour, with the petrol pump, lighting the "fan" on fire, etc.
-Links, 2, 3, 4: Once again, the same thing that Rammstein has been doing for years. The false start they performed on the intro though completely caught everyone off guard, Just as the intro riff was about the kick in, the explosions go off, and all the lights then just go off. I was just there thinking "Electric go out or something", then out of no where, the band kicks right into the main riff, catching everyone by surprise. The cross/box of lights behind the stage begins to unfold intro the cross during this song.
This is also the first song where Rammstein used the Flamethrowers hidden in between the front row of Speakers and the stage, and it's also the point I realised how fucking hot fire is.
-Rammstein: After reading the Rehearsel show review, I'm sure this is the thing that all Rammstein fans were looking forward to at the show, since it was explained so badly, and after seeing it live, it is the most badass thing I've ever had the chance to see live. Both Richard and Paul have Flamethrowers mounted to the front of their guitars ( a bit hard to see, but you can see the flamethrower attached to Pauls guitar in the pic below), they then take in turns shooting flames in rythm to the song, all while playing the guitar. It ends with Till ushering the crowd to sing the start of the frist verse, before going "fuck that, it's time for ...".
It's fucking Sonne, if you aren't headbanging during this song, you aren't human.-Ich Will: Throughtout the first half of the performance, there were security guys trying to extinguish the cross (if you look in the videos on youtube, you can see the cross gets lowered and people with extinguishers rushing it trying to get rid of the fire).
After this, I have to see that video.....
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Originally posted by projektion View PostThanks, one thing I've noticed about the set is that it's a VERY festival centered set, such as no boat song (a lot of the festivals they are playing this year have a central divide through the crowd, so the boat wouldn't be particularly good to use), ich tu dir weh (to have the fireworks shoot up into the sky during the intro to really get people interested in the show who might not have been), Rammstein (mostly feels like the replacement to engel, since they can't use the wings on fesitval stages), etc.
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Why? water bottles were allowed, I posted the rules they sent me here: "You can take in food but NOT bottles with caps. (you must go in with the bottle opened and without the cap)"
Do you think the song is in the right place or it should be moved? I've read many comments about this.
Did he said "Gasolina"?Last edited by projektion; 04-17-2013, 04:15 PM.
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Snake, where's your review?
-Rammstein: After reading the Rehearsel show review, I'm sure this is the thing that all Rammstein fans were looking forward to at the show, since it was explained so badly, and after seeing it live, it is the most badass thing I've ever had the chance to see live. Both Richard and Paul have Flamethrowers mounted to the front of their guitars ( a bit hard to see, but you can see the flamethrower attached to Pauls guitar in the pic below), they then take in turns shooting flames in rythm to the song, all while playing the guitar. It ends with Till ushering the crowd to sing the start of the frist verse, before going "fuck that, it's time for ...".
Not in Lisboa
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