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WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

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•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

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Till: Destroying the myths

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  • Iroto-chan
    started a topic Till: Destroying the myths

    Till: Destroying the myths

    Ok.. now that I have the permission... I decided to post this little thingie I've been annoucing before in my greetings post
    I just copied it from my previous DeviantArt. page. And yes, I want to apologise in advance, because ... I admit I got little carried away in some parts (but I made sure to censor each explicit word, don't worry:P)So please, don't be scared of me. It's just emotions... And I swear to everything, that what I've written was based on most reliable sources.
    I have no other choice but to split it up in two parts now, because of the characters limit. Hence the double post.

    Here it goes:

    Ekhem... *clears her throat*


    I've been thinking about that for quite a long time. And heck yeah, I decided to do it.
    I want to say it out loud. I want to destroy all false myths and gossips circulating about Till and his family. Because I find it extremelly annoying, when I come across some made up stories, stories without foundation... Stories which are mostly the fruit of people's wicked imagination. It p**es me off. I mean, what in the name of holy wursts and frankfurters?! :[
    Let me clear some things up for you:

    1)*Gitta and Werner

    It has been mentioned all over again, on Wikipedia and other sources, that Till's "parents divorced when he was twelve". Yeah, rrrriiiiiiight... you see.. before you set down to write a biography about your "idol", make sure you rely on plausible sources and don't make anything up. Well, this rule seems to have already gone into oblivion and people tend to post whatever they want, however they want, whenever it meets the truth or not. Werner's book, "Mike Oldfield im Schaukestuhl" makes it clystar clear, that:
    -Werner moved to their small cottage- house in 1972, because he liked the quietitude of the farmhouse and wanted to create his poems in peace.

    Being in town caused him too much stress. Meanwhile his wife Gitta, had to do her job as a journalist. He mentions it a couple of times, that he would love to have her around all the time, but it was impossible because of their professions (writer and journalist) As such, they were forced to live two, separate lifestyles. They would pay each other regular visits, mostly during the weekends, every once in a while Werner would even take the pain to move to the town for a couple of days. There is a really lovely part, when he's so excited to have his all family around and is busy preparing some special food for this occasion. "Other folks mumble - they live separately! As if being together meant living constantly under one roof" authentic quote from Werner himself. He let his wife continue her job and fulfil herself as a journalist, he didn't want to get in the way. He also says that his precious daughter Saskia would have a long way to school had she been living constantly in the village. He wanted to make things more comfortable for them. He mentiones about them taking long walks in the sunset, attending motet concert in Saint Thomas church.. "where their hands (Gitta and his) find each other unintentionally". He recalls the New Year Celebration, mentions about his "beautiful wife smiling" and his children having great fun with fireworks. Somewhere else, Gitta and Werner are shopping in Leipzig, and he suddenly gives her a passionate kiss, totally out of the blue... Another plausible source that sets everything in new light is a Radio Audition "Mike Olfield Neuerdings", with Gitta Lindemann interview. She's talking about how did she meet her future husband (Bitterfelder Konferenz 1959, he would constantly gaze at her during the presentation and he invited her to coffee afterwards), some parts later she explains that "they would always live very happily as a family, but they were individualits and each one of them wanted to make the most of itself and fulfill its aims".

    *American step-dad: Where the heck did THAT get from? Neither Werner nor Gitta would EVER mention about Till having one. From all (mostly German) articles I've already read about Gitta (her biography and activity) it becomes crystal clear, that Till's so called "step -dad" is a totally fictional character. There was NO AMERICAN STEP-DAD in Till's life.

    3)Father and Son: If anyone of you got to read Werner's book it would become clear to you, that all these stories about Till's screwed up relation with his father are totally far-fetched and exaggerated. Yes, they would have a fight every once in a while. Yes, his Dad would keep telling him how to live his life, and yes, Till objected, Till answered back, he wanted to make his on way, he would rebuff his Dad's remarks and tell him to jerk off. But for God's sake. He was NINETEEN at the time! I remember those days when I was a teenager, these kinds of verbal fights and quarrels with my parents were on a regular basis.
    How come that people never bother to mention such *unimportant, irrevelant details* like Werner taking care of his son, sick with high fever, Till carrying heavy things for his Dad, Till saving a puppy from death and giving him to his parent as a birthday present, father and son taking long strolls in the woods and planting trees, listening to music? (Till even got his Dad to listen to Scorpions:P) Werner covering his sleeping boy with the blankie? Werner himself would give a lot of thoughts about their relationship. "How do I become with my friends with my son?" Why is there such a gap between us?" "Why can't he be more easy going?" "Should I be the moral drum?" "Or perhaps.. I shouldn't start to scratch before it itches?" "Maybe I shouldn't be so pushy about some things?"
    They once had a fight and it turned a little physical, Werner slid and fell downstairs. But several days later, Werner states, that he has to talk to his son, no matter what happens next. He entered his son's room and they said "sorry" to each other at the same time, lolz.


  • rammsteingirl527
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    can I have some of the sources for the information? I am looking to do a little Rammstein research

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  • Iroto-chan
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    Oh, this one I heard from Irgendein Mike Oldfield Neuerdings, an audioplay with Gitta Lindemann and Thomas Gaevert, with some fragments of the book being read out loud. :-)

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  • Fellfrosch
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    Le sigh...a real man. Btw where do you get all this fried gold on Till? Is there a biography or something I have missed?

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  • Iroto-chan
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    For the topic of Till I also wanted to add, that he once came home, outraged by his co=workers behavior. He told his Dad that none of them would bother, that their boss had 73rd Birthday and none of them would congratulate him, so Till took him for a beer and had a drink with him. He also said, that boss's wife was lying sick in the clinic and no one would bother to pay her a visit, and he ends, enbittered that "these people are no authority for me". Remember the line where Gitta states that Till makes sure "no one stands out/ no one is left alone, by himself/herself?" This is it.

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  • paperdaysz
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    omg really, darling richard wrote that *timetolistentoengelagaindespitethatmypatientisloo kingatme*

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  • RICHARDS BIGGEST FAN
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    Originally posted by Fellfrosch View Post
    Wow I did not know Richard wrote it! Thanks and no.problem. Maybe there should be a song interpretation thread.
    Yeah he wrote it, thats why its a masterpiece lol!!

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  • Fellfrosch
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    Wow I did not know Richard wrote it! Thanks and no.problem. Maybe there should be a song interpretation thread.

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  • Waidmann
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    Originally posted by Iroto-chan View Post
    Why should anyone make fun of you, Fellfrosch? :hug: That's a very interesting, thoughtful interpretation, I've never thought of that before! Till himself said that he wanted to leave his songs open to various interpretations.
    It's not "his" song, Engel is written by Kruspe . But we sure get your point and I surely like the interpretation, Fellfrosh! Thx for sharing.

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  • Fellfrosch
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    I can see us, sitting on a dock on some bleak but magnificent German lake, sipping on Riesling and him telling me his life story. Or at least that's how it is in this girls dreams

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  • Iroto-chan
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    I'm in, I'm in! I bet it's gonna be somewhere in the nature. Till loves nature - he said in SZ MAgazine, that whenever the town makes him feel down'n blue he sets off to the village, where his Mutti lives and relaxes with the rest of family members and friends. Too bad his Granny and Dad are dead and cannot join them

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  • paperdaysz
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    Originally posted by Fellfrosch View Post
    And furthermore, if he would want to spend some time with me in retirement, I'd be okay with that too! :P
    please invite me for you and his retirement party, ill bring tequilla

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  • Fellfrosch
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    And furthermore, if he would want to spend some time with me in retirement, I'd be okay with that too! :P

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  • Fellfrosch
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    I love the paraphrase. So it does kind of make sense then, I'm glad. I think I've said it elsewhere, but if Till retired now, I'd have to say that kinda sucks, but thank you so much, and enjoy! He deserves to spend all the time he wants with his family and travel and enjoy the money he's worked for, just like the rest of us. And that's definitely a good point to make with Nebel! Also something comes to mind from Messer, the title of the poem eludes me, about a grandmother dying. The imagery was a tad disturbing but I know better than to take his words literally.

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  • Iroto-chan
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    Why should anyone make fun of you, Fellfrosch? :hug: That's a very interesting, thoughtful interpretation, I've never thought of that before! Till himself said that he wanted to leave his songs open to various interpretations. And you know what came in to my mind after I'd read your post? Till once said: "Some people regard me as a devil, some as god - but I would appreciate if they just saw me as a human" I paraphrase, but it was something among these lines!
    Oh also wanted to add up: Those times, when Till could not sing and had to reschedule a concert (2009) or an autograph signing session (2003) because he was down with fever and cold and lots of fans would whine like a baby. "What the..!" "That sucks..."! "No way, I want to see him now, I've been waiting so frigging long!" instead of "It's allright chum, pack yourself to bed and get some rest and get well!" Come on, guys?! Where's the empathy?! He's a HUMAN not a machine! He has the right to fell ill every once in a while! And what also makes me extremely irritated, that people believe Till is the every person he sings about and all these dark themes are the product of his "unhappy childhood" Jesus Christ, will they stop it!>.<
    BTW I sometimes wonder if such songs like "Nebel" (just my thought, don't kill me!) may say sth about Gitta witnessing Werner's death and her mourn. Just a thought! But Hmm... it's been nagging me.

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