Underrated songs

[Snake]

^Judging from the demos that surface a few days ago on the internet, the album was actually taking a very herzeleidesque direction. But they probably decided to play it safe, and make LIFAD.

[You]

they also mentioned that they want to "return to our[their] roots" with it or something if im right
which isnt too clever... considering how much they improved

[Waidmann]

they also mentioned that they want to "return to our[their] roots" with it or something if im right
which isnt too clever... considering how much they improved

I'm sure they won't ignore the evolution they've made by returning to their roots. They perform several old songs in a new way (like Asche zu Asche with other keyboard fragments, Till's latter whispery vocal style etc.) without disrespecting their roots.

And on the other hand... I'd be very glad with a new Engel, Du Hast or Sehnsucht .

[You]

And on the other hand... I'd be very glad with a new Engel, Du Hast or Sehnsucht .

but not with a new mehr or bückstabü... which seem like they tried returning to before they could actually make decent music :l
and i dont think you wouldnt accept another mutter or reise reise like album =o

[Waidmann]

but not with a new mehr or bückstabü... which seem like they tried returning to before they could actually make decent music :l
and i dont think you wouldnt accept another mutter or reise reise like album =o

I think Mehr is a great song! Bückstabü took me some time to like it, and the live performances gave it more credit. A whole album of Bückstabüs wouldn't be that great though, I can agree to that.

What makes you think those two songs were an attempt to returning to their old "grooves" anyway? Till uses his latter voice (even his latest higher voice on both tracks) and Flake doesn't really use much electronic techno tunes on these songs!

And offcourse I wouldn't say no to a new Mutter or Reise, Reise but we all know they won't forsaken the sound of those two albums. The MIG tour contains 10 songs of that period (10 of 20 that is!), so very much confirming this was the highlight of their career so far. Metallica anounces every new album to be a return to their Master of Puppets sound, but even when they succeed to that, they still keep several essential elements of their afterwards evolution (like James's unraspy singing voice, symphonic influences, etc.).

Further on topic: I think the Eisenmann - track is underrated as well (by fans and the band). I really think it's a demo with potential (like the lyrics, like the sound, only the mixing and the guitars could use some cleaning up). Hearing that track makes me fear that they've might discarded lots of great tracks in their LIFAD - selection from (where they went from about 40 tracks to 14-15 - depending if you count a significant difference between Roter sand and Liese).

[You]

What makes you think those two songs were an attempt to returning to their old "grooves" anyway? Till uses his latter voice (even his latest higher voice on both tracks) and Flake doesn't really use much electronic techno tunes on these songs!

they themselves said that they tried returning to their older sound since people whined about reise reise and rosenrot being soft. and flake really doesnt use much sounds at all on the whole album. neither do the others. mehr and bückstabü are in my opinion their worst songs by far, even counting the unreleased demos and etc. bückstabü is rather boring, and its chorus is kind of irritating for me =/ Till is just shouting and the main guitar riff is in the background.. i dont think its very creative. the riff itself isnt too good either. for comparison MGM has the main riff as a chorus also but its way more enjoyable and there is even vocal melody to add to it.
and mehr is even worse... literally the same tune goes through the whole song. exactly the same plays in the chorus on guitar than in the verse on keyboard, but without the background tune stuff. and yeap there is a little addition keyboard string stuff in the second chorus, but its the only time you hear something in the song except the solo-like thingy =o

[Waidmann]

they themselves said that they tried returning to their older sound since people whined about reise reise and rosenrot being soft. and flake really doesnt use much sounds at all on the whole album. neither do the others. mehr and bückstabü are in my opinion their worst songs by far, even counting the unreleased demos and etc. bückstabü is rather boring, and its chorus is kind of irritating for me =/ Till is just shouting and the main guitar riff is in the background.. i dont think its very creative. the riff itself isnt too good either. for comparison MGM has the main riff as a chorus also but its way more enjoyable and there is even vocal melody to add to it.
and mehr is even worse... literally the same tune goes through the whole song. exactly the same plays in the chorus on guitar than in the verse on keyboard, but without the background tune stuff. and yeap there is a little addition keyboard string stuff in the second chorus, but its the only time you hear something in the song except the solo-like thingy =o

So because you think they're bad you think they're attempts catching back the old sound ? Not a fan of the old stuff are ya ? No problem, but as for classifying some songs as older style: I think aspects like "sound", "riff" and "rhytm" are better entitled to judge whether it's a back to their roots or not.
I think the old aspects are more present in songs like Liese (Till's voice! The Weisses Fleisch/Spiel Mit Mir - theme! Flake's keyboard bridge!), Führe Mich (Till's voice again and some of Flake's parts, the "machinery" guitars) and Halt (see practically all previews arguments)...

[You]

Not a fan of the old stuff are ya ?

i didnt say that =o actually they improved a lot but they never released anything this bad. not even for a b-side. LIFAD is like pre-herzeleid era just a lot less...
and i thought it sounds like that because of the "machinery" guitars and shouting a word for chorus while the same guitars play (but on LIFAD without any addition)
and improved vocalization is more specific (if thats the word :c) to the later times/eras etc

[Waidmann]

i didnt say that =o actually they improved a lot but they never released anything this bad. not even for a b-side. LIFAD is like pre-herzeleid era just a lot less...
and i thought it sounds like that because of the "machinery" guitars and shouting a word for chorus while the same guitars play (but on LIFAD without any addition)
and improved vocalization is more specific (if thats the word :c) to the later times/eras etc

Hmmm, I guess you have a point there, well spotted. That shouting the title is indeed very typical for the first years and definetly made it's return. I hope it doesn't evolve to simplicity, but so far, I think we don't have to fear that.

Not sure what I should think of when you say "pre-Herzeleid"?

[You]

Not sure what I should think of when you say "pre-Herzeleid"?

oh well i think i meant the herzeleid demos and stuff =o and that they made it look like they are um whats the opposite of improve? :O ... well, do that to even beyond the level they were before herzeleid...
sorrie that im confusing and dumb

[Waidmann]

Haha, no problem, mate ! You're not dumb, I just couldn't quite figure out what you meant !

[TeQuieroPuta!]

Oh well that brings the number to 2

You can add me to that I love Frühling in Paris, Rammlied & Haifisch (the lyrics are just awesome)

I've been playing Sehnsucht a lot lately, i'm addicted to Eifersucht at the moment.

[You]

ive been listening to rarities, b-sides, demos and stuff lately =o and Biest is awsome... and should definitely be released some time.
not a fan of eifersucht D: sorry
and in my opinion its one of the worst from sehnsucht :c if not the most

[cannibal_wotsit]

@you, lay off the invisible text!

@TeQuieroPuta!, Eifersucht it the most played song on my Mp3 player at the moment, love the evil laugh

[TeQuieroPuta!]

I love Biest!

Haha, yeah that laugh sounds awesome when I have my earphones in!