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FORUM RULES ABOUT WEB-BASED LINKS TO MUSIC AND VIDEO'S
Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.
LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:
From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs
So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.
An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.
• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.
WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.
WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.
The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.
Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:
POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.
If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.
•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.
So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.
Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.
Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!
Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.
If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.
If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.
Use your creativity.
IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.
It's a complicated one. If a number of dates are cancelled it changes the organising of where the crew/production move to between dates I'm sure. Postponing EU shows would be a nightmare I think due to later American dates. That and the production is so big it would be hard to find a similar pattern of when the venues were free again to rearrange.
But I think until Governments cancel all events such as these I think the band will push forward where possible.
True. But based on what I am seeing now on the news, it seems like safety measures are only getting stricter each day. I just read that experts now believe the virus will peak in Europe in May. In the period June - August, the highest number of people will be infected. After that, the number of sick people will slowly decrease until December. In early, 2021 most safety measure will be relaxed and maybe a vaccine is already on the way. However, this is a worst-case scenario.
But if this time-frame is correct, filling up stadiums with people in Europe or North-America, seems highly unlikely.
Like you said, the band will probably keep on preparing for a tour, until either promoters or governments put a ban on events in the summer.
It's a complicated one. If a number of dates are cancelled it changes the organising of where the crew/production move to between dates I'm sure. Postponing EU shows would be a nightmare I think due to later American dates. That and the production is so big it would be hard to find a similar pattern of when the venues were free again to rearrange.
But I think until Governments cancel all events such as these I think the band will push forward where possible.
Looking at the news now, I think the entire tour will be cancelled. It just seems unlikely to fill up stadiums until late autumn/winter this year. I also doubt that big events will fully take place again, until a vaccine has been found.
I'm absolutely no expert on this, but it just seems that this situation has been underestimated at every point, so I doubt things will be back to normal any time soon.
In DK audience will get refunds whomever cancels, promoters won't.
But if governments closes for any big events (right now in DK max. attendance is 100 people) they'll have no choice but to cancel and it's also a matter of how late in the year they can wait to make that decision, here I'm thinking logistic.
So, according to some articles I have read, cancelling shows in 2020 will be tricky for the band. In most countries, the government shutting down an event because of safety concerns, does neither gurantee the customer or the organizer, any reperations. Meaning that unless Rammstein themselves pre-emptivly cancel their tour, ticket-buyers won't get refunded. Another option would be to postpone the tour to 2021.
But let's say the band plays 20 of the 40 shows planned this year. Those 20 cancelled shows will cost the band a lot of money, and fans will most likely not get refunds. This would also mean that there probably won't be pick-up shows in 2021 for the cancelled dates.
I wonder if they are going to cancel the 2020 European tour over the Corona virus outbreak.
Yeah that might turn into a real concern. As of now, it seems that many concerts, sport events and festivals are either moved or cancelled to prevent further outbreak. However for some reason, this mostly affects indoor events. In addition, the Summer Olympics in Japan, as well as 2020 Euro Cup are still planned to take place.
We will see what happens once the tour comes closer. I am pretty suprised though that no Lindemann show has been cancelled.
I do think that Richard was quite serious about leaving the band in a few years. Another best-of tour without him would not make that much of a difference, but I do think fans would notice his abscence if they made new music.
You seem to be under the impression that the band would go on without RZK. I don't see that happening in any shape or form. If he goes that's it. End off.
Till is having way more success with his solo stuff than Richard. He is also pushing his luck with all his latest stunts, but his Lindemann tour proved that he can go his own way if he wants. On top of it all, he is clearly having waaaay more fun with Lindemann than with Rammstein. If anyone is likely to abandon Rammstein, it is Till. But even when that happens, they will eventually reunite one day.
Yeah, bands never really break up 100% these days. I think even Richard once said that it's impossible to completely end Rammstein. Ever since Napster and the downfall of physical music sale, musicians have a hard time retiring. Once they stop touring, they stop making money. Royalities and merchandise are more or less pocket change.
I do think that Richard was quite serious about leaving the band in a few years. Another best-of tour without him would not make that much of a difference, but I do think fans would notice his abscence if they made new music.
Another thing that often happens when big bands break up, is that the remaining members join one of the solo-projects of other bandmates. It could be that after Rammstein breaks up, the remaning 2-3 bandmembers that want to make more music, simply join Lindemann.
I think Rammstein still wants to tour in Australia and South America. Maybe they also want to tour fetivals in 2021 or 2022. The remaining songs from the "Untitled"-sessions might get released as an EP, and will also get a small tour. Either way, Rammstein will be around 2-3 years before some members might leave the band.
Till is having way more success with his solo stuff than Richard. He is also pushing his luck with all his latest stunts, but his Lindemann tour proved that he can go his own way if he wants. On top of it all, he is clearly having waaaay more fun with Lindemann than with Rammstein. If anyone is likely to abandon Rammstein, it is Till. But even when that happens, they will eventually reunite one day.
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