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FORUM RULES ABOUT WEB-BASED LINKS TO MUSIC AND VIDEO'S

Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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Russian community "Rammstein" interviews Zoran Bihac

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  • Russian community "Rammstein" interviews Zoran Bihac

    Interviewer: Gleb Davydov

    When you see the making of, then a lot of things are explained. actually, the band tried to explain it in a nice way, what they thought of Eugenio's version. the same for the record company. but for real there were super-disappointed. They had so much expectations for this project, and they were very unhappy with the result, and how they looked in the video. They didn't liked themselves in the video.

    Then, they asked me to edit the video. i said its impossible, the material is not enough, not for a Rammstein video, so i decided to shoot more.
    I always thought that Eugenio and I would share the directors credits, but, after he saw the video (FUCKIN' over 2 MONTHS AGO !) he said he didn't want the director-credit, he wanted to be credited with his footage material, which is NOT 70%, its more like 50%...maybe even less. i called my editor last night. so he can prove it.
    He should show his version, please, please...then everybody can see anyway.
    I am a big fan of his work, really, and I can understand why he is angry, because the management doesn't want him to show his version...
    But, a management decision is a band decision, can it be, that they just don't want someone to show something that they don't like ?

    Now, when he want's to put it on his site, all of a sudden everybody is a shit.
    My information was always that everybody knows that i am working on this video.
    And, you can take this as a fact, he got paid 3 times more than i did, thank god i did the piano version as well, this is totally mine.

    It's easy to build up a myth now, and everybody wants to see his version, I wish everybody could, then everybody will see how fast myths can melt away.
    He behaves like a child, in my eyes, and how can can you wish DEATH to somebody ? He wishes DEATH to Till, who is one of his biggest fans. So, everything before was just fake and a lie in their relationship? Just because they didn't like his version?
    Are we professionals or not?

    So:
    1. I was okay with 2 director credits on MHB. NEVER for the piano version.

    2. He didn't wanted to be named as a director, after he has seen the final version, because there is not so much in it from him.

    3. He got paid for his job and he had an incredible budget.

    4. I still like his work a lot, but actually, all of that is not my problem.

    Here's my sesame street version:
    So, if i pay you to make a portrait of my face, you get the money. you paint it. But I don't like the result. you get the money for your work, but i have the fucking right to say : I don't want it, that someone sees that painting of my person. Because it doesn't represent me. I don't like my face in this painting, but I like the colours, and the painting is mine, because you sold it to me. Now I ask someone else to overdo it, that's not so nice of me, i know, but i am the client, sorry.

    Now the person, who has overpainted it, did another painting, because he liked that subject so much, and he made me happy with the other version, AND a new painting...for less money, yippee!

    I have shown you the new paintings. You said, 2 months ago, hmm, that isn't my painting anymore, i cant identify it so much, so don't use my name. (maybe you just didn't liked it..)
    But, you made a copy of the old painting, and still want to show it to the world.
    the other painter has no problem with it...of course not, he's just a painter.
    but i have. because i am the fuckin' client.

    adios

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    Maybe you don't know, but Eugenio Recuenco posted in his FB pages some comments and this is his answer.

    These are the pages:

    http://www.facebook.com/Eugenio.Recuenco

    http://www.facebook.com/eugenio.recuenco.1

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    • #3
      I just think Recuenco wasn't mentioned in anything because there 's always the chance of sueing. If Recuenco really distanciated himself at some point from the end result, I wouldn't dare to mention him in any credits, fearing I might aggrevate him (by giving him credit for something he doesn't like). But despite that Recuenco expected some recognition anyway for at least some of the footage was his.
      I think every point of view makes sense and this unfortunate outcome isn't really to blame anyone.
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      Auf das du mich dort findest

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