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FORUM RULES ABOUT WEB-BASED LINKS TO MUSIC AND VIDEO'S

Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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  • Originally posted by Maya View Post
    He only said he thinks it would be the last studio album, not the end of the band

    LIFAD was released in 2009, next album will be released if we are lucky in 2018, after nine years ... If we have to wait another 10 years, maybe he is right.

    But today Rammstein is working in new songs, so we should be really happy.
    Just because between LIFAD and the upcoming album there will be 9 years (assuming that they will release it in 2018), it doesn't mean that we have to wait another decade for the album nr.8. A few leftovers and in 2020 or 2021 we might get another album. There are no time patterns in their releasing policy. Everything is rather unpredictable.

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    • Originally posted by The Chaser View Post

      Just because between LIFAD and the upcoming album there will be 9 years (assuming that they will release it in 2018), it doesn't mean that we have to wait another decade for the album nr.8. A few leftovers and in 2020 or 2021 we might get another album. There are no time patterns in their releasing policy. Everything is rather unpredictable.
      That is a recipe for another rosenrot.
      "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

      - Raymond M. Smullyan

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      • Even as Lifad came out I thought their next one was going to be the last studio record, which has nothing to do with feeling but just with the production time and the touring afterwards that necessarily takes so much time now that they've grown so big and the industry - as well as personal interests - slow things up. But I do think both solo projects (Till's and Richard's) will also release something. And I think there's a big chance that in some way some Rammstein left over material will see the light of day as well (a single, soundtrack, new song on a B-side of an album single, new track on a re-edition, etc.).
        Dort wo der Horizont
        Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
        Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
        Auf das du mich dort findest

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        • Originally posted by The Chaser View Post

          Just because between LIFAD and the upcoming album there will be 9 years (assuming that they will release it in 2018), it doesn't mean that we have to wait another decade for the album nr.8. A few leftovers and in 2020 or 2021 we might get another album. There are no time patterns in their releasing policy. Everything is rather unpredictable.
          Of course is unpredictable, but Richard wants to tour, we can see it each year, for him going to studio with Rammstein is a nightmare . For the new album probably they'll tour and rest, tour and rest, ..... and this time it will be a huge one (At least two years, probably more). After that, they´ll probably stop between two and three years, if we are lucky the new one will begin then. Except If they have leftovers that they like and then you are right and we'll have a new album in 2020 or 2021.

          It's funny that we are dicussing it, when we hadn't the release date for the new one. I hope we'll have it in 2018 and don't have to wait until 2019. Crossing fingers.

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          • Originally posted by Maya View Post
            It's funny that we are dicussing it, when we hadn't the release date for the new one. I hope we'll have it in 2018 and don't have to wait until 2019. Crossing fingers.
            I think we've had plenty of hints in interviews that the new cd will be out 2018. Unless they really surprise us, and release it in time for the X-mas sale, but I don't believe that.

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            • I wouldn't be surprised if we had to wait until 2019.
              "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

              - Raymond M. Smullyan

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              • I no longer care if they release another album or not. The Paris DVD fiasco was the last straw. They have wasted enough of my time.

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                • Originally posted by The Rose View Post
                  I think we've had plenty of hints in interviews that the new cd will be out 2018. Unless they really surprise us, and release it in time for the X-mas sale, but I don't believe that.
                  Originally posted by Snake View Post
                  I wouldn't be surprised if we had to wait until 2019.
                  This was my point

                  Originally posted by Art in Heaven View Post
                  I no longer care if they release another album or not. The Paris DVD fiasco was the last straw. They have wasted enough of my time.
                  The sad thing is the band thought the same about the film but they decide to trust Jonas.

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                  • I will always care about a new album. I will never buy the crap of "they owe it to the fans" or so. They had very good reasons for taking the time they did, whether they personal or just a way to keep the band together (where other bands would've decided to go on without certain members and would we applaud that for Rammstein to happen?)... More than not the industry, label issues, production processes and contracts to commit had a bigger impact than personal life or interests. And still... you can say we were quite spoiled in the beginning with 5 albums in 11 years, even added with 2 DVD's (and Völkerball in their 12th year).
                    Dort wo der Horizont
                    Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                    Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                    Auf das du mich dort findest

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                    • Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
                      I will always care about a new album. I will never buy the crap of "they owe it to the fans" or so. They had very good reasons for taking the time they did, whether they personal or just a way to keep the band together (where other bands would've decided to go on without certain members and would we applaud that for Rammstein to happen?)... More than not the industry, label issues, production processes and contracts to commit had a bigger impact than personal life or interests. And still... you can say we were quite spoiled in the beginning with 5 albums in 11 years, even added with 2 DVD's (and Völkerball in their 12th year).
                      I have absolutely no problem with the band taking all the time they need to produce a new album. If they need 20 years to create new material, then by all means, take 20 years and fuck everybody else.

                      What I do have a problem with, is with the fact that *every single* release they put out between LIFAD and the next album has been mediocre at best (perhaps with the exception of the videoclip for Haifsch). Their only saving grace has been the tours. I honestly believe that if it wasn't for that, I wouldn't give a fuck about them anymore.

                      I will also have a problem if the next album is a fiasco in spite of the band taking all the time they needed to produce it. And the bar I am setting isn't even if I personally enjoy the next album. It is about wether or not they actually put thought, effort, and creativity into it, and are willing to take another chance like they took with Reise, Reise.
                      "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

                      - Raymond M. Smullyan

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                      • ^Although I of course do not agree with you calling their releases mediocre, I do applaud the fact that you point out the greatness of the Haifisch-clip. I was well received overall, but for me it's in many ways every bit as epic as the Mutter album videos.
                        Dort wo der Horizont
                        Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                        Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                        Auf das du mich dort findest

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                        • News/inteview mention; Peter Tägtgren hypothesises that "Once they're done with their upcoming record, they're going to need to tour for a year or two."!

                          On a side note I honestly loved their releases - Mein Land is really catchy great energy brilliant vocals, the clip is fun, and I love Vergiss uns nicht, it has a wonderfully stirring chorus. And I definitely did not hate Paris, a lot of the shots nicely emphasised the unity of the band. I will say in the cinema the speed felt overwhelming, but rewatching many times at home I grew to really love it; I thought it was a very effective visualization of the rhythm of the songs and hence added a lot to the music. But I think it's necessary to have it on DVD to be able to admire it - in cinema one views the speed as an impediment that conceals the cinematography (what did I miss, it flew by too fast) whereas at home you can pause so that concern isn't there anyone so it becomes instead a part of the cinematography, and so you can truly appreciate the artistic vision and brilliance - it's not really a concert film in the conventional sense but trying something different and I appreciate it as a concept.
                          The more I dig, the more I discover gems. Hearing the name "Peter Tägtgren," I immediately think of the industrial...

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                          • Welcome Der kalte Mond. mow we're two that likes Paris, and I agree with you, it gets better when you see it again.

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                            • I really like Paris, even the fast editing. I would just love a non-cgi version one day, to remove the shitty lightning on du hast.

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                              • Originally posted by Der kalte Mond View Post
                                - it's not really a concert film in the conventional sense .
                                I agree. It's a pop video.

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