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FORUM RULES ABOUT WEB-BASED LINKS TO MUSIC AND VIDEO'S

Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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  • #16
    Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
    Although I overall agree with the rest you said, I don't agree with this part. That part essentially says every remix or re-edition is uncalled for / bad / a mistake by definition, and I don't follow that. I love many remixes and think many artists improved work by making their own version (for example, IMO Guns N' Roses is a band that does many covers and they almost always make it better). And that they are not yours to tamper with.. well, if it's been released out there, it becomes more or less a possession of the people. Except for the copyright stuff and so.
    No cover-versions and re-mixes are an entirely different matter. There the artist does something creative. Sometimes it works well and sometimes is awful, but there is creativity involved. Rammstein have done cover-versions and mostly good ones, I think.

    What Xendar does is either, he just takes away little bits he doesnt like, there is no creativity, no attempt to make it new or his own.

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    • #17
      I dislike remixes, but I like many covers, I think what Xendar made with the song and the photo is not the same, with the song only removed the disliked sound, and with the photo tried to removed only the scars.

      Originally posted by Xendar View Post
      I believe that these scars make the picture worse to be honest, and I always thought how would it look like without them, and here is my result, which I consider an improvement.
      The photo shows a man that doesn't have scars with scars. We know how he looks without them, and the strength of the photo is the way it looks, even forgetting the scars every aspect of the photo is studied, since clothes and background to the position of the face and the lights, every single detail we are not thinking about, and the whole makes this amazing artwork. Xendar is looking for something different and it wouldn't look like this one at all, so for me it would never be an improvement, just something completely different.

      Many people is inspired by photos or songs and make new versions, I have done it with photographs, but I didn't edit someone else photos, I took a photo inspired in another I have seen, it was completely different. Xendar only removes the parts he doesn't like.

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      • #18
        @The Rose: Well, in fact he doesn't really add something new, it's more removing, deplacing, extending, etc., so there you're right (and I was wrong ). The creative proces might be smaller than I've given it credit for. But in that respect, re-editions are frowned upon as well, as they are just "cleaning", tuning, extending parts etc. as well. With, I admit, the crucial difference that's it's actually the maker himself (or his studio) that renews its own stuff which is of course more legit.

        About covers I don't agree entirely. Not all covers really changed something significantly, so I fail to see the creativity there. Like when Guns N' Roses covered The Seeker from the Who, they didn't change anything really, they just played the song as it was. Personally I prefer the latter version only because I like Axl's voice more. The "improvement" was just the singing talents, not any addition or so.

        In the end the man can do whatever he wants (if he doesn't violate rules), but I guess he thought people would share his passion and would see them as improvements as well .

        @Maya: you really dislike remixes? In the mainstream music I often like remixes, like they play in dancings . In rock I almost never do though.
        Last edited by Waidmann; 03-01-2015, 03:55 PM.
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