Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: or, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:


If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.


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  • #16
    ^Through their management.


    • #17
      Originally posted by Snake View Post
      I wish this forum had like buttons so I could give AiH my like for that comment.
      Indeed, because if you react you either get no response at all (even if it's a question) or he goes all mental if you don't agree and he starts the whole childish name-calling and stuff. I'm sorry, just not a fan of the man.

      And seriously, sending it to the band? What reaction can you expect from just sending to the band an exact copy of the track with only 2 small parts removed from it? Even if they'll give it a try, they won't take it serious as it isn't a serious altering (for you it might be, but in the general it's quite a small modification that doesn't really acquire musical talent). It takes like 2 minutes.
      Dort wo der Horizont
      Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
      Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
      Auf das du mich dort findest


      • #18
        Well yea Waidmann,I am not going to send the management this version.
        But it definitely didn't take 2 minutes.
        Ich tu' dir weh, tut mir nicht Leid, das tut dir gut


        • #19
          ^There's indeed no interesting outcome to be achieved by sending that, I believe.

          Anyways, this thread is at least good for mentioning this song again. It's a nice song I think, with Till's old teutonic singing voice. I like to play it in my car for staying energetic and awake.
          Dort wo der Horizont
          Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
          Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
          Auf das du mich dort findest


          • #20
            I agree, it is a good song, but I never could quite get to grips with the bag pipey sound playing in it. Spot on about Tills vocals though.


            • #21
              If there is one thing that ramm-fans can agree on, is that Till's old voice was much better than its current one. He should go back to his roots.
              "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

              - Raymond M. Smullyan


              • #22
                ^I wouldn't say better. I actually prefer his later whispery, grunting voice and his more melodic high singing on the whole. However, I don't think he should 've dropped the old teutonic voice entirely. And I believe during the MIG-tour he reintroduced that voice a bit from time to time to sound stronger (like sometimes Mutter and Ohne Dich had that sound).

                @AiH: That intermezzo from Flake in Der Meister is indeed a bit odd. For me it always raises eyebrows as it doesn't really fit (and isn't too good; Küss Mich also has a very strange bridge from Flake, but that one I really like).
                Last edited by Waidmann; 05-15-2014, 10:07 PM.
                Dort wo der Horizont
                Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                Auf das du mich dort findest