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Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

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"this is not a love song"...lyrics omitted from amerika song at paris bercy???

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  • Sandy
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    Oh, we thoroughly understand what the lyrics mean.

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  • Waidmann
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    Haha, I hope the Americans at least stopped singing "chainsaw" now .

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  • Progress
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    Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
    They've allways changed (mostly extended) songs to get more focus on the instrumental parts. That's why every Reise, Reise song is longer live than on the album. I think it's just their way of letting the band have it's "moment to shine" instead of doing solos, like other metal bands usually do.



    Well, there's still the ironic remarks in the rest of the song, just the very explicit phrase is gone.
    Yeah the irony is not gone. But i don't think the average Rammstein-fan in america understand what they sing (prejudice much, yes). They just hear " We're all living in America, Amerika is wunderbar [...] Coca-cola, Wonderbra."

    I still like the song though, it's as you say, the band "shines" during those instrumental parts. But that line makes the whole song, and i miss the power that the line contributes with.
    Last edited by Progress; 04-03-2012, 02:13 PM.

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  • Maya
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    Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
    Well, there's still the ironic remarks in the rest of the song, just the very explicit phrase is gone.
    Sure, now I can't remember who (maybe Till), but in an interview he said that they didn't get the song even with "This is not a love song" phrase. So maybe @Progress is right, now there's a love story with US market.

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  • Waidmann
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    They've allways changed (mostly extended) songs to get more focus on the instrumental parts. That's why every Reise, Reise song is longer live than on the album. I think it's just their way of letting the band have it's "moment to shine" instead of doing solos, like other metal bands usually do.

    Originally posted by Progress View Post
    I guess they simply removed the line since they're trying so hard to achieve success in America. They didn't sing it in Sweden either. Without that line the song is all of a sudden a... love song.
    Well, there's still the ironic remarks in the rest of the song, just the very explicit phrase is gone.
    Last edited by Waidmann; 04-03-2012, 10:56 AM.

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  • Snake
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    And I bet they are going to drop the song and start playing Mein Land once the North American tour starts.

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  • Progress
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    I guess they simply removed the line since they're trying so hard to achieve success in America. They didn't sing it in Sweden either. Without that line the song is all of a sudden a... love song.

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  • Art in Heaven
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    I have just listened to my mp3's of the Birmingham gig and he didn't sing it then either.

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  • RICHARDS BIGGEST FAN
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    Originally posted by RZK View Post
    I remember all the lyrics for pretty much all of the songs, so I notice even a little mistake when I'm singing along And that one wasn't even a little one...Till just put his microphone on his waist and stood there : O
    Thats really strange, why did he not just sing them

    I must say i love your picture with Till, one day my avatar will be of me and Richard

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  • RZK
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    Originally posted by RICHARDS BIGGEST FAN View Post
    I must say that you are all very observant, i think i was so busy singing along to all the songs i did not notice any missing lyrics, maybe i should have done !!
    I remember all the lyrics for pretty much all of the songs, so I notice even a little mistake when I'm singing along And that one wasn't even a little one...Till just put his microphone on his waist and stood there : O

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  • TeQuieroPuta!
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    Just been looking through my videos that I took at the Manchester gig, completely forgot I'd taken one of Amerika. The lyrics were left out then too, instead Paul and Richard took over

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  • RICHARDS BIGGEST FAN
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    Originally posted by RZK View Post
    I noticed at the gig in Helsinki when they were performing 'Ich Will', Till didn't sing the 'seht ihr mich, versteht ihr mich, fühlt ihr mich, hört ihr mich?' part just before the first chorus starts.
    I must say that you are all very observant, i think i was so busy singing along to all the songs i did not notice any missing lyrics, maybe i should have done !!

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  • RZK
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    I noticed at the gig in Helsinki when they were performing 'Ich Will', Till didn't sing the 'seht ihr mich, versteht ihr mich, fühlt ihr mich, hört ihr mich?' part just before the first chorus starts.

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  • AnakondaImNetz
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    ... I just always thought that those lyrics in amerika were sort of the crux of the song ...

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  • AnakondaImNetz
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    ppphhhoooooo now I will just haaave to check out those others ... I just always thought that those lyrics in america

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