Rammstein Nominated at the PRG Live Entertainment Awards 2014

[thelyricwriter]

For real. No one throws a concert like Rammstein. Nobody!

[projektion]

I want to say that the Richard's singing during the verses in during the early LIFAD tour shows is also playback. During the first verse when they played in Barcelona in 2009, you can hear Richards "Du... Du hast... Du hast mich" but he's walking away from his mic when it's happening.

[Waidmann]

^Yeah, the whistling could be pre-recorded too, however, once again, I saw live material where it wasn't (during the Sehnsucht tour, where Paul or Richard comes to late for the whistling and you can hear it's only one of them at first, and than it increases).

To be honest, if it's not exhaustive yelling there isn't much need IMO for such voice-overs. They should just skip it, the performances will still remain top-knotch!

I thank god every single day we don't hear anything from Milli Vanilli these days.

[EmeraldRose]

^I agree about the whistling. I've always thought it was either playback or sampled. I have to say though, there's probably lots of times when vocals are playback because let's face it- people could be hoarse or sick or whatever. It's still them, even if it's playback.

At least it isn't Milli Vanilli. :P

[The Rose]

Still wonder why they changed to more voice-over. Guess Till was a bit blown out or so from the first concerts or overdid in the warm ups or so... He sounded way more powerfull during the MIG-tour, which makes me believe he struggled a bit during the LIFAD-period (although it was a gigantic tour and his performances were good).

From what you and Snake writes, it seems they changed back and forth, even for the same numbers. So maybe it was how the form of the day were, that decided?
I've alway been convinced the whistling on Engel were play-back? It sounds so precise no matter where and when. And of course backing-vocals for most numbers, but that is to be expected.

Oh - and happy 500

[Waidmann]

@ Maya: Thx! It's of course the good company here that kept me around ! In this way I like to thank those other faithfulls that do.

Still wonder why they changed to more voice-over. Guess Till was a bit blown out or so from the first concerts or overdid in the warm ups or so... He sounded way more powerfull during the MIG-tour, which makes me believe he struggled a bit during the LIFAD-period (although it was a gigantic tour and his performances were good).

[Maya]

EDIT: this seems to be my 500th post! Feel free to send flowers !!!

[Snake]

^Yup, in Lisbon the ITDW chorus was 100% live. You can watch a multicam for the entire concert here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Toq_Q2G86i8

[Waidmann]

^My mistake! Which means it was sung live a few times.
And indeed that Lisbon gig... He even seems to sing the ITDW-chorus live (the poor youtube quality doesn't confirm it 100% for me, but the last chorus definetly sounds live).

EDIT: this seems to be my 500th post! Feel free to send flowers !!!

[Snake]

^The first time was on Lisbon, Portugal. One of the few LIFAD concerts that had almost no playback.

[Waidmann]

^Well-spotted at the Jimmy Kimmel attendance!
Yeah, noticed the ITDW indeed, just like the parts from Waidmanns Heil, Stein um Stein and more than probably Rammlied. This makes me presume the chorus of Sehnsucht is a voice-over as well. I never got though why they did the same with he chorus of Lifad. I guess only the first time (in Bilbao 2009) was live, but don't know why. I guess he wasn't happy with the result, although I thought it was ok.

[Snake]

^ITDW still had some lip playback during 2013, during the main parts of the song. And Feuer Frei always had the "Bang bang" pre-recorded. This little bip about Feuer Frei I am sure, because I already caught Till looking back at Flake with the mic away from his face, and yo ucould still ear it. Furthermore, you can watch on YP the Feur Frei performance from Jimmy Kimmel. In that particualr event there was no voice sample for the bang bang, and you can clearly see it sounds totally different from regular shows. It even looks as if Till was struggling to scream it.

[Waidmann]

^I'm far from being the only one that claims that it was playback. This issue was very discussed on ther herzeleid forums. And I didn't even need to participate in the debate over there.

I've been searching (fyi the Rosenrot forum also discusses it) and I fear you might've stumbled on some inconvenient Rammstein-matter I didn't want to know, but luckily I find lots of material to counter it a bit. It apears indeed that now and then Till was lip-synching on that small B-stage. A mistake was made for example when Till had the mic under his arm and the singing already started. Other nights however we can hear a very tired voice from a concert where they had to do 2 shows in 2 days... I also found the wire being cut and suddenly his singing stops (and Till getting furious)... Or other parts where sudden movements of Till clearly influence the singing...
So.. to sum up, it seems that on the little B-stage during the MIG tour, he - now and than - lip synched, probably because there were frequent difficulties? But as this sure happened, the opposite occured too, namely that he sang for real now and than on that stage. Glad it stopped on the main stage and so during festival season (except of course for the yelling parts like in Wiener Blut).

[Snake]

^I'm far from being the only one that claims that it was playback. This issue was very discussed on ther herzeleid forums. And I didn't even need to participate in the debate over there.

[Waidmann]

^The buck dich from 2011/2012 is not from the album, sure. As for why would think it is playback, you said it yourself: the songs are really hard to diferenciate.

You think he playbacks it because it's hard to hear if it's playbacked? Seems like a lot of effort for nothing at all. Can't see why they'd do it then.