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FORUM RULES ABOUT WEB-BASED LINKS TO MUSIC AND VIDEO'S

Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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  • Snake
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    ^The buck dich from 2011/2012 is not from the album, sure. As for why would think it is playback, you said it yourself: the songs are really hard to diferenciate.

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  • Waidmann
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    Originally posted by Snake View Post
    ^You can find it out on youtube. Just search for any Buch Dick and Mann Gegenn Mann played in 2011 and 2012. During 2013, MgM was not played, and Buck dich sounds like it is not playback anymore during that year.
    ^In the meanwhile I looked through some concerts. I watched fragments of the Montreal gig ('11), the Saint-Petersburg one ('12), the Berlin O2- concert ('12) and the Bercy gig ('12). Mann gegen Mann is sung quite different when you compare St. Petersburg (very sighing, whispering voice at the beginning) with the Bercy version (more clear voice, though rougher that the album version + longer pause with "von hin-ten zieht"). Can't see why you would think these would be pre-recorded if they sound differently but both unlike the album? The "Mann gegen Mann" they shout together and the "schwuler"-yell of Till are recorded, I guess, but why would the entire rest be? I just can't see it.

    With Bück Dich it's harder to differentiate as the song contains mainly speaking, less singing. What I hear is though definetly not the album version but a live sung version (recognizable by the whispery voice Till introduced on the Mutter-album). Again: why would you think this is playbacked before 2013?
    You're right that it wasn't playbacked in 2013 as I saw them on Werchter (front row!) and when Till almost tripped over Flake he catched breath in his talking .

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  • Snake
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    ^You can find it out on youtube. Just search for any Buch Dick and Mann Gegenn Mann played in 2011 and 2012. During 2013, MgM was not played, and Buck dich sounds like it is not playback anymore during that year.

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  • Waidmann
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    Originally posted by Snake View Post
    Îf it is a secret, it is a very poorly kept secret. And even though during 2013 Till toned down the playback a whole lot, in the previous years the concerts where littered with voice samples in musics like ITDW, Waidmanns heil, Wiener Blut, Rammlied, etc. IT got to the point that MgM and Buck Dich where enterely singed in playback.
    Flake's parts mainly pre-recorded is understandable, most of the keyboard-players do that.The thing about Muse that bothersme is the guitar being pre-recorded. That's just over the top. Keyboard-parts are to many to do them all live, voices need to be spared (although I'm not to happy with the pre-recorded Till-voices as well).

    Could you pm me or direct me to a link of when Till playbacked entire songs? Never thought he'd do that...

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  • Snake
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    Îf it is a secret, it is a very poorly kept secret. And even though during 2013 Till toned down the playback a whole lot, in the previous years the concerts where littered with voice samples in musics like ITDW, Waidmanns heil, Wiener Blut, Rammlied, etc. IT got to the point that MgM and Buck Dich where enterely singed in playback.
    Last edited by Snake; 03-14-2014, 10:11 PM.

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  • The Rose
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    I think they are way too experienced to "let info slip", as for Till's part, I don't have any knowledge about how much is playback and how much are rumours about playback? But it's obvious that there is background vocals and strings etc. that is on tape. I don't believe that is supposed to be a secret.

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  • Snake
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    ^That is more like letting info slip than openly admitting it. And it was only regarding Flake's part, not Till's.

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  • The Rose
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    ^ Rammstein admits it as well. I've seen interviews where they make fun of getting confused because Flake have started the wrong tape without noticing it and the rest of the band starting on different songs.

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  • Snake
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    ^Well, a lot of Flake's stuff is also pre-recorded, and Till performed a lot of playback during this lifad/mig tour, so I guess Rammstein kind of stands him equal ground with Muse. But at least Muse openly admits that they use pre-recorded stuff.

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  • Waidmann
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    It was a live act, but since their last tour Muse uses pre-recorded guitars and backing vocals for their live acts. They want to offer an optimal quality, claiming it's the best way of taking the show to the highest possible level for the fans. I don't agree, I think it all should be live.

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  • EmeraldRose
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    But...wasn't it for best LIVE act? If it was recorded...how was it live?

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  • Maya
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    :O Pre-recorded? And they win, how can that be possible?

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  • Waidmann
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    Originally posted by Maya View Post
    Yesterday took place the Gala at 7.30 PM in the Frankfurter Festhalle.



    And the winner was:

    Muse in Berlin | Waldbühne | 14.07.2013
    Organizer: ct creative talent GmbH

    Source: http://www.lea2014.de/preistraeger2014.htm
    Their pre-recorded concert indeed sounded amazing! It was album quality without denial as we actually got to hear the album! Those guys just showed expert timing pressing that play-button!

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  • EmeraldRose
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    Booo!!!

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  • Maya
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    Yesterday took place the Gala at 7.30 PM in the Frankfurter Festhalle.



    And the winner was:

    Muse in Berlin | Waldbühne | 14.07.2013
    Organizer: ct creative talent GmbH

    Source: http://www.lea2014.de/preistraeger2014.htm
    Last edited by Maya; 03-12-2014, 11:48 PM.

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