Rammstein documentary

[Snake]

Not trying to start a dispute here, but if you're basing your comment about poor US ticket sales on a couple of photos Snake, that's not particularly wise. I'm assuming you must have attended a show in the US where the venue wasn't packed out or you've read an interview where the band or personnel commented on poor sales or maybe you saw some statics. Mind sharing that info? Because the 2 shows I attended were pretty crowded (a lot more than your two photos). No seats available below nose bleed and very good crowds in the general admission section especially in ATL, GA. I grow weary of all the people who make it out like the US fan base of any foreign band is weak (I get the same reactions from Depeche Mode and Cure fans). It's difficult to hear of a lot of awesome bands and often difficult to get all of their music and memorabilia because importing is complicated and the US media only like to cram down our ears what they want us to hear. For those of us who think outside the box and look further for great music, the search isn't easy.

If the bands personnel felt there was money to be made in the US they'd set up a tour. And you know what?! They did! After R+ tested the waters to see if there was a reaction in the States, they decided to come back. Surely that decision wasn't based on a whim. Please cut US fans some slack! Also, it's not as easy as it is in parts of Europe to travel to multiple venues for most of State side. We drove 13 hours to be sure we attended their final US show for this tour. It was extremely costly NOT including the price of tickets! That fact that R+ have a fan base in the States is impressive enough for me to be positive about ANY sales here. If every venue didn't get packed out I'm not going to be negative, panic or say that the States hate R+ and they'll never tour here again. Maybe just a reevaluation of the economics of particular areas or sales to determine where to play next tour... if there even is next tour! All of the fans I met at the ATL show were crazy excited to be seeing their favorite band live and we all knew how special it was to be in attendance. We struggled to get decent seats for both venues. If you want to talk poor tickets sales based on facts, I'll be happy to produce of number of sources that show how effing difficult it is for a US fan of ANY act to obtain tickets because of mark up and 3rd party sellers... not because the US fans are cheap, unappreciative or lack luster about their favorite acts! Please try to be positive! We LOVED Rammstein touring the US! It meant the world to me and my husband!

I'm not passing judgment on the USA fan base. I am merely arguing that the tickets did not sell very well in the US, and I was using Europe as a measuring stick. And the fact is, that for Europe the tickets sold out extremely fast (specially in germany) and all venues were sold out, or at least pretty close to be. If you want to argue that I is not fair to compare North american to Europe, than thats a different story.

[Edelweiss]

I wonder if the two concerts I went to were like that because they seemed jam packed. All I saw were people when I turned around. I had no idea Rammstein had so many American fans. For a band that sings in German, they have a pretty amazing American fan base. Waidmann is correct in that most rock bands don't sell out here. I was thinking of going to see Iron Maiden since tix are avail, but I have to work til 7 so I wouldn't get there til 9._____I can't wait to see the R+ doc.

[KatesterLizbrat]

Not trying to start a dispute here, but if you're basing your comment about poor US ticket sales on a couple of photos Snake, that's not particularly wise. I'm assuming you must have attended a show in the US where the venue wasn't packed out or you've read an interview where the band or personnel commented on poor sales or maybe you saw some statics. Mind sharing that info? Because the 2 shows I attended were pretty crowded (a lot more than your two photos). No seats available below nose bleed and very good crowds in the general admission section especially in ATL, GA. I grow weary of all the people who make it out like the US fan base of any foreign band is weak (I get the same reactions from Depeche Mode and Cure fans). It's difficult to hear of a lot of awesome bands and often difficult to get all of their music and memorabilia because importing is complicated and the US media only like to cram down our ears what they want us to hear. For those of us who think outside the box and look further for great music, the search isn't easy.

If the bands personnel felt there was money to be made in the US they'd set up a tour. And you know what?! They did! After R+ tested the waters to see if there was a reaction in the States, they decided to come back. Surely that decision wasn't based on a whim. Please cut US fans some slack! Also, it's not as easy as it is in parts of Europe to travel to multiple venues for most of State side. We drove 13 hours to be sure we attended their final US show for this tour. It was extremely costly NOT including the price of tickets! That fact that R+ have a fan base in the States is impressive enough for me to be positive about ANY sales here. If every venue didn't get packed out I'm not going to be negative, panic or say that the States hate R+ and they'll never tour here again. Maybe just a reevaluation of the economics of particular areas or sales to determine where to play next tour... if there even is next tour! All of the fans I met at the ATL show were crazy excited to be seeing their favorite band live and we all knew how special it was to be in attendance. We struggled to get decent seats for both venues. If you want to talk poor tickets sales based on facts, I'll be happy to produce of number of sources that show how effing difficult it is for a US fan of ANY act to obtain tickets because of mark up and 3rd party sellers... not because the US fans are cheap, unappreciative or lack luster about their favorite acts! Please try to be positive! We LOVED Rammstein touring the US! It meant the world to me and my husband!

[Snake]

I don't think there is one, but it's told in many reviews that the American venues often weren't sold out (while here in Europe they were out more than a half year before the gig).

Exactly. Plus, these photos say it all:

[KatesterLizbrat]

Back on topic: A R+ doc including interviews from other musicians would be epic! I think R+ have influenced more artists than is openly admitted in part bc it's not currently the hip thing for them to do (any Cure fans here remember when it was "cool" to name drop The Cure left and right?). So hearing large acts and other artists admit their admiration for R+ would be a really nice layer of icing on the bands career cake.

[KatesterLizbrat]

Agreed Progmetty. The venues we attended seemed very full. Have been to shows recently with less attendance by slightly more well known foreign bands. We shouldn't jump on the train of bumming out the American shows unless we know for a fact the ticket sales were poor.

[Waidmann]

I think Rammstein did very well in America this tour attendance wise, relative to them being a foreign band.

On the whole I agree to that. The north american venues always have more problems to sell out, whatever band that passes by. You can buy Metallica tickets till days before the show, GNR often doesn't sell out there, Iron Maiden doesn't always sell out either in the US etc. But I guess the expectations of the sales were higher; the difference with the devotion of Rammstein's european public is veeery big, even compared to the same matter with other bands.

[Progmetty]

I think Rammstein did very well in America this tour attendance wise, relative to them being a foreign band.

[rammsteingirl527]

Rammstein are so busy these days *-* this is so true

[Maya]

You can see it in Many pics and videos, it's coming to my mind something more, I'll search for it later.

[Waidmann]

were is the source for ticket sales?

I don't think there is one, but it's told in many reviews that the American venues often weren't sold out (while here in Europe they were out more than a half year before the gig).

[Smithy]

^True, but probably because of the poor ticket sales.

were is the source for ticket sales?

[Edelweiss]

Richard ZK can "conquer" me anytime. LOL

[Maya]

xD jajajajajajajaja

No, they want to conquer US market

[Snake]

^True, but probably because of the poor ticket sales.