Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: or, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:


If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.


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"Deutschland" discussion thread

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    Today a year ago, the new video "Deutschland" by Rammstein came out. (From the Rammstein Belgium page)

    The video is a mini-film spanning about Germany history.

    It was directed by Specter Berlin and a 36 second teaser was released two days prior before the video release and had already caused a lot of controversy.

    The storyline is explained below:

    - Introducing Germania
    ‘Germania Magna’ (meaning "Greater Germania") refers not just to a place, somewhere partly defined by where it isn’t (Rome), but also to a national figurehead, traditionally representing the German people.

    Germania is a strong woman, usually armour-clad and battle-ready. Various symbols appear with her, among them a breastplate with an eagle, a black, red, and gold flag, and a crown.
    Look out for these symbols in the video – they come up again and again – and the colours of the contemporary flag are there in every scene.

    We get our first glimpse of Germania (played by Ruby Commey) when the video opens in AD 16, on the ‘barbarian’ side of the limes, the border of the Roman Empire.
    Roman soldiers (Richard, Schneider, Flake, Paul and Olli) creep through the woods in the aftermath of the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest.

    The Romans were ambushed by an alliance of Germanic Tribes, led by a chieftain called Arminius (the original Hermann the German).
    We see Germania who stands up holding Till Lindemann’s severed head.

    Next, astronauts appear carrying a metal and glass box shaped like a coffin.
    In the background we see a U-boat – a German submarine, used in World Wars I and II.

    Then we move to a scene set at a boxing match which takes us to Weimar Germany (1918-1933), a period known for its political instability but also greater cultural liberalism.
    Here, Germania appears in the cabaret costume of a flapper girl, and the boxers (Till and Richard) fight with knuckle-dusters as a crowd cheers them on.

    - Marx, Lenin and the GDR
    We see the former East Germany, complete with busts of Marx and Lenin, the national emblem of East Germany, and a lookalike of the long-serving, insular, and repressive GDR leader Erich Honecker (that is portrayed by Till Lindemann)

    There’s another astronaut, or rather a cosmonaut: Sigmund Jähn (played by Oliver Riedel) who was the first German in space, and he flew with the USSR’s space program.

    Medieval monks feast grotesquely on the supine Germania, tearing sauerkraut and sausage from Ruby Commey’s body.
    Rats scuttle across the floor when the monks first appear - And did you notice the 4 vampires in this scene? - Suggesting the Pied Piper of Hamelin, a legend with origins in the 13th century.

    Oliver, Paul, Flake and Till are prison inmates that are beaten by guards Richard and Schneider who are dressed in police and military uniforms from different historical periods.

    Germania walks towards the camera in a leather jacket, gold jewellery and a string of bullets across her chest, resembling the chariot drawn by four horses (the ‘Quadriga’) that is on top of the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin.

    In the prison, hundreds of banknotes fall from above, suggesting the devastating hyperinflation Germany suffered
    in the 1920s.

    The most obviously shocking scene references the Holocaust and the Nazi period. Flake, Till, Paul and Oliver are wearing the striped uniforms of camp inmates, waiting at the gallows, about to be hanged.
    They wear the cloth emblems used to identify their ‘crimes’:
    a pink triangle for homosexual prisoners, a yellow star for Jewish prisoners, a red and yellow star for Jewish political prisoners.

    Other scenes include the band walking away from a flaming airship, referring to the 1937 Hindenburg Disaster, in which 36 people died.

    The band members’ heads are shown as white marble busts, taking us to the 19th century Walhalla memorial in Bavaria, built as German Hall of Fame, its sculpted heads of German worthies on display to this day.

    Nazis burn books, intercut with religious fanatics burning witches.

    We recognise members of the Red Army Faction (also known as the Baader-Meinhof group), a militant organisation active in the 1970s in West Germany.
    The Red Army Faction (R.A.F.) kidnap Germania and Till Lindemann is dressed as a woman - look at the nail polish on his fingers that has the 3 colors of the German flag - with reference to Ulrike Meinhof, a West German far-left militant.
    She co-founded the Red Army Faction.

    And in a blink-or-you-miss-it exchange, we are reminded of the much-criticised relationship between the churches and the state during the Third Reich.
    (And did you see the Star Wars Sith Lords holding their lightsabers?)

    - The finale:
    Each scene captures in a moment the icons of an era, and the video cuts between them more and more frenetically as it goes on.
    Events bleed into each other, linked by the presence of the band members and the red laser beam that appears throughout the video, a ‘roter Faden’ (red thread or central theme), connecting each event.

    Germany engages with its history in a very particular way. Try to imagine the video about Britain, with Britannia is played by Ruby Commey. What would the equivalent events be? Quite a few of the tableaux might be similar – Romans, Crusaders, monks, 18th-century soldiers, collarless shirts and bareknuckle boxing – but would it have the same impact?

    There’s no affection, and perhaps not much hope: its pessimistic tone seems to be quite an off-brand message for post-1989 Germany, which wants to acknowledge its past critically, while also looking to its future as a state at the heart of Europe.
    And actually, while we get a lot of medieval and twentieth-century history, the video’s tour through the past seems to stop in the late 1980s, before the fall of the Berlin Wall and Reunification of East and West Germany.

    Instead, we jump into the future, where the space-suited band take Germania into the unknown, travelling in that coffin-shaped glass box.

    There’s an echo of the video for Sonne, where Snow White is trapped in a glass coffin. In fact, a piano version of Sonne plays over the end credits of Deutschland. This is a useful link for understanding something of what Rammstein is doing here.

    In Sonne, where the band’s characters free themselves of Snow White (naturally, they’ve been her sex-slaves), only to realise that they have made a mistake and long for her return, the overwhelming feeling of Deutschland seems to be that when it comes to Germania (or Germany): you can’t love her, and you can’t live without her.

    Meanwhile the video has reached over 104 million views after it's been released.

    Another interesting video about Deutschland is "In Depth History Review & Explanation Of The Video" explained by VlogDave ►

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    Dort wo der Horizont
    Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
    Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
    Auf das du mich dort findest