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FORUM RULES ABOUT WEB-BASED LINKS TO MUSIC AND VIDEO'S

Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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  • Snake
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    ^I did not meant to imply that they owe us anything. They are totally within their right to do whatever they feel like. I am not mad at them. But by the same logic, I am also not obligated to maintain interest in them if their chain of decisions completely fails to hold my enthusiasm. And if turns out that the amount of people that don't give a damn anymore is as insignificant as you believe it is, than kudos to the fanbase. In my opinion, they have maintained more loyalty than the band deserves.
    Last edited by Snake; 09-19-2018, 10:36 PM.

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  • Waidmann
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    Nah, I cannot imagine a signifcant part of the fans checking out big enough to break their sales rates in a significant way. They're way too high up there for that. And as you give yourself as an example of moved on and being someone who cannot bring himself to care anymore: note that you will still going to the next tour AND even probably going to buy that new album. As many will as well. If it's not about curiousity, it will be just about completing the set or giving it a go or some nostalgic thing. This is the most popular german speaking band in history we're talking about; they pretty sure can pull off almost everything now, like Richard implied in a 2016 interview. It also seems like a very new generation-minded way losing interest in a band when they don't bring out records for a long time. I don't think many older people, especially "casual fans" (like my two older brothers, my friend Matthias, my mother,...) would mind buying an album of a band they liked long ago; they don't watch the calendar and constantly remind themselves of how long it's been since a last album (they probably don't even know it exactly). They just hear new stuff is out and buy the record.

    Related to that, and not saying that you (Snake) are in this case, but I will never understand people who are getting mad at Rammstein for this long waiting. They don't owe anyone anything, they didn't sign any contract with the fans claiming that they would produce this or that within this period. Nor was this anyway something we actually earned or so. Maybe if it were you it’d be different. Maybe you’d do it for this reason or that. Peace, whatever. But no band owes you your personal happy ending, especially not at the expense of their own personal goals (which at least several of them had, which can be seen in Till's, Richard's and Flake's side projects, to name just one thing).

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  • Snake
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    ^When I wrote fanbase, I was not tallking about the dedicates fans like you. I was talking about the casual fans that are actually going to make or break their album sales and their next tour. Not everybody has the same passion as you, and even the ones who do, may very well have had enough of waiting and moved on. I sure as fuck cannot bring myself to care about them anymore. Sure, I will go watch them live if I get the chance and probably buy the new album, but I simply cannot bring myself to care as much as I used to. I am done as a dedicated fan. And if I feel this way, it is not unreasable to speculate that a good chunk of people that like the band have also checked out.
    Last edited by Snake; 09-19-2018, 04:08 AM.

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  • Waidmann
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    Originally posted by Snake View Post
    Yey, it is only going to take him almost 10 years to produce a new album. I am sure the entire fanbase is still incredibly excited about them and that nobody has moved on.
    Are you seriously thinking a significant part of the fanbase lost interest? They get thousands of likes for everything they post, they sold out tons of festivals in the last years without even releasing anything. This is Rammstein you're talking about. No doubt whatever they'll bring out will be praised, will reach #1 in the german charts and will have great sales. Even the people complaining about the long wait will surely buy the album. I think there's even 65% chance you will buy it. After all, why not? You adore one album of them, you don't really dislike the next two and from the album you claim to hate there are actually several songs you appreciate. It's not like it's a ton of money anyway. Just out of mere curiousity people will buy it in excitement. Rammstein released several succesfull albums. People who like more than one of their albums will be very tempted to buy the nex one. I mean, have you really ever met a big fan of a band saying that heor she won't buy an album because the periode of time since the last release seems rather long??? No, my friend, then you're not dealing with a fan in the first place. If you won't buy it , then it's because you lost interest in what they did in this last decade, not because you had to wait that long for an album. If Lifad had been a great hit in your eyes you would buy the next record for sure, even if they took yet another decade.

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  • Snake
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    Yey, it is only going to take him almost 10 years to produce a new album. I am sure the entire fanbase is still incredibly excited about them and that nobody has moved on.

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  • Waidmann
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    ^I'm sure the band's indeed done by now but if they are still recording choir chants, then I don't think they're in the "finishing touch" fase yet :/ ...

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  • The Rose
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    I think the band as such are done, now it's the finishing touches. But I agree, there's no need to ad the album to our Christmas-list, at least not this year .

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  • Waidmann
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    Sounds epic! But this also means they are still recording for the album :/ . By the time this is all produced and edited... No record before the spring, I tells ya!

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  • Maya
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    This time it's true, we'll see it soon.

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  • The Rose
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    Work in progress:
    Almost done! Orchestra and choir recordings in Minsk for album No. 7!

    https://www.facebook.com/pg/Rammstein/posts/?ref=notif


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  • The Rose
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    ^ Good one

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  • Waidmann
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    I came across this one today ...

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  • The Rose
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    Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
    The article says also the new Rammstein album will still definitly see the light of the day in 2018. I wonder...
    I think they were rehashing old news and rumours to fill space

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  • Maya
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    Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
    The article says also the new Rammstein album will still definitly see the light of the day in 2018. I wonder...
    2018???????? I didn't get that part.

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  • Waidmann
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    The article says also the new Rammstein album will still definitly see the light of the day in 2018. I wonder...

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