Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: or, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:


If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.


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2012-05-25 USA Houston, TX Toyota Center / Rammstein

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  • #16
    Super quick run down of the show in Houston: The crowd was terrible and the venue is not my favorite for acoustics. The crowd was so bad that Joe Letz actually had to moon the audience to get a reaction... They were that dead. Things didn't change much when Rammstein came out. Some excited folks, but compared to the ATL show, the reaction was low and disappointing for their final US show this tour. Till couldn't get anyone to repeat lyrics loudly, the cheers were calm and all around the reception was grim. The first set by R+ had a lot of feedback in the PA and Till's voice was clearly tired. My left ear went out almost immediately so I had a harder time hearing him on top of his being quieter. Apart from that, the band sounded great! For the final bow Joe came up with the guys. During the set on the b stage, Till was clearly discussing things with Joe who was on the floor near the sound booth for most of their set. I'm assuming he was inviting him up for the final good-bye. It made for a cool picture at the end.

    Not trying to be a Negative Nancy as we still enjoyed ourselves, but everyone could have been a little more excited for their last stop. It was certainly not a proper farewell and thank you to the band. Hopefully the rest of the shows in the US had more energy and fans there to see the show instead of getting stoned. ATL was pretty amazing especially compared. Another positive from this particular show was our great seats and the ability to shoot some incredible pictures. That'll help the bad memories from the lame crowd fade faster.
    "I came to see that it is all vanity and a striving after the wind"


    • #17
      The DJ does the mooning thing in every concert.
      I hate Houston the city but the crowd I met there -everybody with me in front row- was very loud even though we were so tired from traveling after the San Antonio show.


      • #18
        @Progmetty, Joe didn't do it at ATL show & the crowd was very into his R+ mixes. I'm not picking on Houston but having been to something like 50 large venue type musical shows between my husband & I, we both agreed that the crowd was mostly quiet & unexcitable. I definitely expected more noise considering that the Toyota center was pretty much packed. Maybe the venue itself had a lot to do with it. Also, we drove from Nashville, TN and were exhausted but I still screamed until my voice was gone.
        "I came to see that it is all vanity and a striving after the wind"


        • #19
          Yeah he mooned the crowd in Dallas, and I have to say most of the audience outside the pit was pretty reserved. I think it's a Texas thing. Bible belt and all.


          • #20
            progmetty, how was the show compared to the San Anton Show?


            • #21
              @Saeda, could be a TX thing. Last live event we attended in ATL before R+ was Depeche Mode and the crowd was reserved compared to FL and IL for their shows and pretty much every live event I've attended in TN has had dead pan crowds. A lot depends on the amount of people who attend a show because they love the band or they just scored cheap/free tix too. We bought our R+ TX from a 3rd part because we waited too late to decide if we could make the long trip (so glad we went!). Bought our tix from a guy who got seats from his friend who is a Toyota Center employee. When I worked for a large international auction company some years ago, they used to get 2-4 rows for every gig at all the major venues (when Nashville, TN used to have more) and would either give them away or no one would attend. Sucks how that works at least for those of us who really love the band and want to be there. At any rate, R+ in Houston will always be an awesome memory to reflect back on or pull a jar of memory preserves out from. I hope I always have the ability to remember R+ live no matter how awful my memory may become.
              "I came to see that it is all vanity and a striving after the wind"


              • #22
                Originally posted by Smithy View Post
                progmetty, how was the show compared to the San Anton Show?
                Sorry I just saw your question now.
                San Antonio was much better, I cannot be impartial cause San Antonio was my first R+ show ever and I took the experience all in with much joy. The next day was super fun cause Rammstein looked happy to have concluded such a successful tour and about to go home and were giving all the remaining energy away


                • #23
                  Progmetty, That is an excellent way to put it! Though they were undoubtedly tired, they looked happy to be there and saying goodbye felt sincere instead of just relief (though I'm sure they were relieved to be done).
                  "I came to see that it is all vanity and a striving after the wind"