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FORUM RULES ABOUT WEB-BASED LINKS TO MUSIC AND VIDEO'S

Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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  • https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/politik/fe...der-til-og-med

    Denmark has also put a total ban on mass gatherings that will be lifted after August.That means the show in Aarhus won't take place.

    Now that the first and last show of the Europe tour has been cancelled by authorities, I think a official announcment will come soon.
    Last edited by Chrisss Nofff; 04-06-2020, 09:31 PM.

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    • Just announced here in Denmark: All large gathering forbidden until end of August. So bye bye all festivals and Rammstein concert amongst others.

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      • Greetings from matthias.matthies
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        • I actually like some of the art and photography from Matthies.

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          • Statement from the band:

            Apr 9, 2020
            "We are monitoring the situation in the individual countries very attentively and are in close contact with the band's local partners. As soon as there is clear and binding information it will be passed on to every ticket holder for the upcoming shows. Until then we appreciate your patience and understanding."

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            • ^Hmm, seems like they still want to make the best of it, with a "It ain't over 'till its's over" - mentality. Maybe they'll end up doing still a few show after all somewhere in June here and there.
              Dort wo der Horizont
              Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
              Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
              Auf das du mich dort findest

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              • I Hope they will postpone all the shows, this is really serious, In June, the danger will be still there.

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                • Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
                  ^Hmm, seems like they still want to make the best of it, with a "It ain't over 'till its's over" - mentality. Maybe they'll end up doing still a few show after all somewhere in June here and there.
                  If they cancel now, they are legally speaking doing it for no real reason. Then they still have to pay all bills, and refund tickets in some cases. Therefore, I think they wait until governments put a ban on mass gatherings (like in Denmark) so that the «Force Majeur» clause in their insurance kicks in, and the financial blow won’t be as big. At least that is what I am thinking.

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                  • Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
                    ^Hmm, seems like they still want to make the best of it, with a "It ain't over 'till its's over" - mentality. Maybe they'll end up doing still a few show after all somewhere in June here and there.
                    It costs too much to put the show on the road for just a few here and there, they'd end up losing more money than if they cancelled without being forced to it.
                    But I think Chrisss is right, they are playing a waiting game for the different governments to enforce it.

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                    • Originally posted by The Rose View Post

                      It costs too much to put the show on the road for just a few here and there, they'd end up losing more money than if they cancelled without being forced to it.
                      But I think Chrisss is right, they are playing a waiting game for the different governments to enforce it.
                      I remember reading in those articles about the stadium tour, that they built two stages in order to make the tour financially viable. They would lose money if they didn't play at least 3 shows a week on average. I remember in some U2 documentary that a day on the road costs about 1 million dollars, no matter if they play a show or not. I can imagine Rammstein has a similar budget. So having bigger gaps between shows would make the entire tour pointless.

                      I think the North-America tour will be the hardest to postpone. Alle venues need to be available in the same month, or else the tour will be too expensive.

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                      • ^Yes, they absolutely have 2 stages. I remember back in 2019, there was still ocurring concerts in Germany, while in Spain there were already popping up photos of the crew assembling the stage.
                        "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

                        - Raymond M. Smullyan

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                        • Several states in Germany are planning on extending a ban on large events trough June and July. There was also some talks at the EU to turn all tickets for cancelled events into vouchers for entertainment that will expire in 2 years. Although this will most likely cause outrage, since many people want their money back.

                          It's a real shame for those that haven't seen Rammstein live yet.

                          I saw the stadium show again in Oslo last year, and I must say that it had improved since I last saw them in Berlin. The sound was a lot better. The stadium in Oslo was the second smallest for this tour, and the daylight dissappeared after 30 minutes. This was probably the optimal condition for this show, since the lack of screens was not such a big problem. It was really one of the best concerts I have seen.

                          Large outdoor shows have always been a challenge for band, especially since what makes their show so unique is the use of light and the lack of screens. However, I think they are getting better at it.

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                          • So what do we think are the chances of any EU shows happening? Their statement seemed optimistic of some shows happening. I just think if they intend to do any shows it's a mistake. Large scale events even 2 months away could start the spread of this virus again. I'm sure some fans don't want to risk it either. It already seems clear some shows simply will not happen.

                            I'm just in a sticky situation in regards to going to one of the Berlin shows if they go ahead. It may sound crazy but I have not yet booked flights (in some ways I'm happy I haven't yet). But the price of flights keeps varying. I can cancel the hotel which is fine but a confirmation would be appreaciated by all fans now. I would want to cancel my leave from work if it doesn't happen etc.

                            At this point it would make sense to postpone all dates to 2021? I'm sure all dates could be reworked even if there were a few challenges.

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                            • With the Austrian, Belgian and Danish shows already cancelled I believe they are only waiting for the German states to follow suit, then they'll cancel/postpone the whole European leg of the 2020 tour.

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                              • In my opinion, they should cancel all the shows, and if posible postpone them.

                                In Spain, the numbers are getting better slowly but I think we will have to stay at home until June and smaller places like restaurants will be closed, imagine big venues. I don’t think we will be allowed to travel. And other countries will do the same, we have to maintain the measures to control it or it will get worse again. European Stadium Tour 2020 won’t happen and probably neither the North America Stadium Tour.

                                And no one has mentioned it, but pneumonia leaves you weak, even being a strong man like Till maybe he will need some time to be ready for a tour.

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