Lindemann: Till's solo project

[The Rose]

Till Lindemann will perform at the Spasskaya tower festival in Moscow on September 4th and 5th.

Source: https://spasstower.ru/en/news/20210818135/

I guess his Russia love is still strong.

Why? Full title of the festival is the Spasskaya Tower International Military Music Festival. Just look at the line-up: https://spasstower.ru/en/program/

He seems to be making some strange choices lately I think. You can also buy dinner with him in Moscow for the 'cheap' prize of 100,000 Euros!

[Chrisss Nofff]

Till Lindemann will perform at the Spasskaya tower festival in Moscow on September 4th and 5th.

Source: https://spasstower.ru/en/news/20210818135/

I guess his Russia love is still strong.

[Waidmann]

^You both are probably right. The enthusiasm of Peter was huge at the beginning of the project (a bit over the top IMO), but was practically absent after the 2nd record. I think the german language played a role as well. I think the strict division was an error to begin with. Strictly speaking they could still do a record together, as Peter's critics in the interview were only about the show, but I don't think so. It's ashame they didn't come to a mutual agreement for the future, because I like Peter's work on Lindemann. Because it's not like Till couldn't do his own stuff in another project of his own if he wanted to.

[Maya]

I think it's always been Till who has done the visuals. The cover notes for Skills in Pills said so if I remember correctly. Second time around he went more extreme. There have been interviews from the shooting of Platz Einz especially, were it was said that Peter mostly stayed away and seemed uncomfortable or uninterested. Also he was barely seen in Knebel, and not at all in Ach so Gern. The videos seemed more like Till/Zoran than Till/Peter.
So maybe the partnership wasn't so equal as we believed at first, and Peter got tired of delivering background music to a Till show?

Probably you are right, I was really surprised when I listened to the second álbum and it was in german, during the promotion or the first one, he said that he wrote the first song in English so Peter could understand it. I think this is the quote you were talking about:

“The pair leave their mark on everything that is Lindemann, but there is a bit of a division of labor between the two. Tägtgren focuses on musical composition, while Till lends his sharp eye to the band's visual aesthetic, from photography and design to their mind-bendingly surreal music videos, the most recent of which being the extremely bloody and sexually explicit "Knebel" clip“

[The Rose]

I think it's always been Till who has done the visuals. The cover notes for Skills in Pills said so if I remember correctly. Second time around he went more extreme. There have been interviews from the shooting of Platz Einz especially, were it was said that Peter mostly stayed away and seemed uncomfortable or uninterested. Also he was barely seen in Knebel, and not at all in Ach so Gern. The videos seemed more like Till/Zoran than Till/Peter.
So maybe the partnership wasn't so equal as we believed at first, and Peter got tired of delivering background music to a Till show?

[Waidmann]

^Those images aren't my cup of tea either, just like all the R-rated elements to be honest. I watched the DVD once, and now I play it in the background, but just listen to it without watching XD

But it's a bit weird though, for Peter to put it like that. It seems like there was no dialogue between the two. It's hard to imagine that Till would really impose this kind of show (or any show) on the band. It sounds more like Peter let Till do whatever he felt like and in the end concluded that he didn't like it. Though what part exactly, I'm not entirely sure, because he didn't really say. The interviewer talked about the schocking images, and I guess Peter's talking about that, but still... Much of that filth was already there in the first record and tour. Maybe he had enough of it but Till didn't. But still: now Till has gone solo, we got stuff that's much more mature...
I think it's going on longer than it seems. I think some decisions were made right after or during the recording of the second album. It always struck me that, when asked about why the track Sauber isn't on F&M, Peter answered that Till might still do something with it in the future. He almost anounced Till's plans to do solo stuff with this remark.

Obviously, it seems like it's an awkward thing for Peter to talk about. I hope things get more clarified later on, but the fact we never had an official reason so far implies that it's somewhat of a complicated situation.

[The Rose]

Peter on last Lindemann tour: 'Not my cup of tea*
I'm not surprised, it felt more like Till going through a very public mid-life crisis.
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/pe...of-tea-at-all/

[Maya]

With Till the End he crossed another line too, not surprised at all, probably he went alone for the same reasons.

[Chrisss Nofff]

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/pe...of-tea-at-all/

So we finally got an answer why the Lindemann project was ended. Tägtgren said the tour "was not my cup of tea at all".

Sad to hear. But I guess we all had a feeling that Till's sexual humor was too much for Peter. I also got the slight feeling that in the "F & M"-cycle, Lindemann was more a collaboration between Till Lindemann and Zoran Bihac. Peter was in a way left out.

Anyway, so now we finally have an answer, albeit an expected one.

[Maya]

Till Lindemann is shooting a video with French singer Zaz for "Le Jardin des Larmes" in Uzbekistan. Filming will take place in Bukhara within three days and it's supported by Uzbekistan's Ministry of Tourism and Sports. The video will feature theater actors and stuntmen from Bukhara and will be filmed by a Russian film crew. According to our sources, the director of the video is Zoran Bihać. Further, the song was reported to also contain a few German lines sung by Till despite the fact that the song is being sung in French.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/24353793579...877159236/?d=n

[Waidmann]

I wasn’t a big fan of the short film. I also did not understand the plot-twist. Was the judge the actual killer? Did she commit suicide by blowing up her car? Or was Till’s wife the killer, because of the red scarf and the letter in their living room? Either way, I understood that part of the twist was that Till was actually innocent.

I also hope this was the last of the Soviet/Russia oriented videoes. Although there is probably one still coming. The one that was filmed at the Moscow Zoo.

I could live with more Russian elements if it would be some kind of theme of the upcoming record or so. But I hope he as well he won't restrict himself to this theme for the rest of the Till Lindemann project.

[Chrisss Nofff]

I'm not sure if a Lindemann tour has a highly choreographed show. But I get your point, there will be things for sure that have to be rehearsed. Not sure how the people I mentioned did it (and Specki T.D. actually did perform with a band constellation he never did before with less than a day in between, and so did Dickinson at one point).

I guess it will be 'hired guns', with Till in the spotlights. That would be my guess. Maybe some of his former Lindemann-crew is willing to carry on.

I also wonder if there is some symbolic purpose of playing the first «Till Lindemann» show at Wacken. If I remember correctly, Till and Peter met at Wacken 2013, and started thinking about starting a project together.

[Chrisss Nofff]

I wasn’t a big fan of the short film. I also did not understand the plot-twist. Was the judge the actual killer? Did she commit suicide by blowing up her car? Or was Till’s wife the killer, because of the red scarf and the letter in their living room? Either way, I understood that part of the twist was that Till was actually innocent.

I also hope this was the last of the Soviet/Russia oriented videoes. Although there is probably one still coming. The one that was filmed at the Moscow Zoo.

[Maya]

I like the short movie too and it explains parts of the vídeo

[Waidmann]

I'm not sure if a Lindemann tour has a highly choreographed show. But I get your point, there will be things for sure that have to be rehearsed. Not sure how the people I mentioned did it (and Specki T.D. actually did perform with a band constellation he never did before with less than a day in between, and so did Dickinson at one point).

I guess it will be 'hired guns', with Till in the spotlights. That would be my guess. Maybe some of his former Lindemann-crew is willing to carry on.