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  • Originally posted by Saar View Post
    You're like me then, RBF
    Yeah definatly, i never listen to hype and will always buy something only if i am interested myself. Same goes for people, if someone says to me they do not like someone i will always make up my own mind before judging

    How are you Saar, we have not met for awhile, it has been so busy here it always takes me about an hour to write a post
    The saying is "You dont know what you have got till its gone" the truth is "You know what you had, you just did not know you would lose it" !!

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    • Thansk for asking, RBF, I had a quite busy weekend, so no time to post anything. Now I have to work for 2 weeks and then 1 week of vacation. I really look forward to it. How are you? Not to busy at work?

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      • Originally posted by Saar View Post
        Thansk for asking, RBF, I had a quite busy weekend, so no time to post anything. Now I have to work for 2 weeks and then 1 week of vacation. I really look forward to it. How are you? Not to busy at work?
        Work is mega busy at the moment, its school holidays and also the time of year for big groups of students

        I have to work this week then i have a week off, i cant wait, i am so tired and need a break from 6.45am starts.
        The saying is "You dont know what you have got till its gone" the truth is "You know what you had, you just did not know you would lose it" !!

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        • Sorry for going of topic but do you work in a museum or something like that?

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          • Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
            I'm with you on that one. Everyone is reading it, and that somehow demotivates (is that a word?) me to read it as well. It's hard to say why...
            For me it is because of obvious pornographic nature of the series. Personal decision to steer clear. However, if that were not a factor, maybe the horrible reviews it's recieved as to its being poorly written & badly edited would be enough to turn my nose up. Can't say from experience that they are badly written, just what critics have noted. I'm definitely as much a snob about the books I read as I am about the music I choose to listen to. No insecurities about losing my individualism if I 'follow the herd'. Just too dern picky for my own good. But I like it that way.
            "I came to see that it is all vanity and a striving after the wind"

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            • You can't judge a book by it's cover

              You can call it 'obvious pornographic', but it's more 'mommy porn' as various critics says. I's not poorly written or badly edited. What unnervises me, is the Dutch translation! That's just horrible! And that's the reason why I read it in English. Far mutch better. You mustn't follow the critics. Take that advice from an ex-librarian I've worked in that sector for a couple of years and graduated in that study-area and one valuable lesson is: do not follow the critics. They just go with what people wan't to read. The more 'standard' stuff, popular stuff. But if the critics says it's badley edited and written, why do almost everyone read it? Even bad publicity is publicity

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              • Saar, you've just pointed out the reason I've stopped reading in Dutch alltogether. The translations are so annoying sometimes
                Novembernebel/lifeofNeej

                Weiter, weiter ins Verderben...

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                • Exactly, Grover, if it's possible I buy all my boooks in English now.

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                  • Yeah me too. Thank heavens for Bol.com and Amazon haha
                    Novembernebel/lifeofNeej

                    Weiter, weiter ins Verderben...

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                    • You have to type in Google The Book Depository. Much better than Bol and Amazon, because you have free delivery and also discounts.

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                      • Originally posted by KatesterLizbrat View Post
                        For me it is because of obvious pornographic nature of the series. Personal decision to steer clear. However, if that were not a factor, maybe the horrible reviews it's recieved as to its being poorly written & badly edited would be enough to turn my nose up. Can't say from experience that they are badly written, just what critics have noted. I'm definitely as much a snob about the books I read as I am about the music I choose to listen to. No insecurities about losing my individualism if I 'follow the herd'. Just too dern picky for my own good. But I like it that way.
                        In its time, "Lady Chatterley's lover" of D.H. Lawrence was also branded as pornographic and banned in the UK. Not reading a book for for being "pornographic" would be a mistake. Marquis de Sade works, as pornographic as they are, they are full of philosophy of the morals (well, the title "Phylosophy in the bedroom" says it all . Of course, a personal decision is what it is: a personal decision, full stop. But, in my opinion, puting a blanket on a literary genre makes sometimes invisible many good works to oneself.


                        Now: why I don't read it? Well, my reading list is just too long to add anything to it, and I have granted reading for the next two years at least
                        «The trouble with the world is that the stupid is cocksure and the intelligent full of doubt»
                        Bertrand Russell.

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                        • Originally posted by grover View Post
                          Saar, you've just pointed out the reason I've stopped reading in Dutch alltogether. The translations are so annoying sometimes
                          Amen to that. I read Catcher in The Rye in Dutch. The translation didn't spoil it (it usually doesn't for me), but it's often very "Hollandisch", which sometimes works quite estranging (and yeah, I suppose sometimes even irritating for me).

                          @ Jorge: I know what you mean. I've even already in my young age had the tragic insight that I'll probably never get old enough to read all the books I want to (I practically want to read half of the canonized western books).

                          As what I'm now reading: just finished Voltaire's Candide. It's a nice read but quite old-fashioned; it's good it doesn't last much longer than 100 pages. So I started a much more recent book, namely Sebald's Austerlitz. It starts off well, I guess. Quite confrontating too read about Belgium for me .
                          Dort wo der Horizont
                          Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                          Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                          Auf das du mich dort findest

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                          • Originally posted by Saar View Post
                            Sorry for going of topic but do you work in a museum or something like that?
                            Its no problem i will go back on topic in a minute I work at a leisure centre and swimming pool, i work in reception, that is why i have to work weird shifts and also alternate weekends I like my job most of the time but get so tired this time of the year as its manic

                            Read the 1st four chapters of `shades` last night, i was told its slow going at first but to keep going, i have heard some brilliant reports and some bad so the only way to judge is to read it myself, having said that it is like anything we are all individuals and some will love it and some hate it. I will give my opinion when i have finished it
                            The saying is "You dont know what you have got till its gone" the truth is "You know what you had, you just did not know you would lose it" !!

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                            • I think my readinglist counts now around 2000 books I bought a few of them and read a lot of it too, but it's still very long. I've worked for years in a public library and then you start to make lists of what you want to read.

                              @RBF: oh, I thought it was something like that. This time it sure is manic with all the vacations. About 'shades': it has it's lows and its highs.

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                              • I am reading nothing at the moment...unless you count my Süddeutsche Zeitung Rammstein magazine x)

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