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Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

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  • #61
    ^You cannot link to ANY bootleg clips!

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    • #62
      Ah, right, well I took it off, but this video stay may be interesting to watch which shows what parts they took.
      Ich tu' dir weh, tut mir nicht Leid, das tut dir gut

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      • #63
        Here it is an extended description of the documentary's content:

        Documentary Rammstein in Amerika – running time on DVD: 2h //

        TV Cut-down: 1h30

        This documentary by Hannes Rossacher tells the story of Rammstein in Amerika by focusing on the chronological development of events in the band’s history in North and South America. The film contains a great deal of unreleased footage from the band’s personal archives.

        The first two-thirds of the film portray the band and their rise in the US and Latin
        America up to 2001; their simultaneously regretful and disenchanted “Farewell to Amerika” following the events of 9/11; and their explosive return to a sold-out Madison Square Garden.

        The film accompanies the band on their various visits to the Americas throughout the past 20 years.

        The film can be broken down into the following chapters:

        1990 – 1993 EAST GERMANY: Where does Rammstein come from? The bands in which they played in East Germany. Life and making music in the East.

        1993 FIRST US TRIPS: After the Fall of the Wall – impressions from the band’s first outside encounters.

        1994 RAMMSTEIN: Formation of the band. Development of the show concept.

        1996 BIZZARE FESTIVAL / USA / BOB BIGGS: First contacts with record labels in the US. Finding an agent. First club shows.

        1996 SUPPORT TOUR WITH KMFDM

        1996 DAVID LYNCH/LOST HIGHWAY: Cult and credibility.

        1997 DU HAST / RADIO / MTV: Commercial success.

        1998 FAMILY VALUES TOUR: Language and life on tour.

        1999 HEADLINER TOURS: Life on tour. Getting arrested. Concept of morals and art in the USA.

        1999 MEXICO / KISS / SAO PAULO: From feverish excitement about Rammstein in Mexico to the worst show ever in Sao Paolo.

        2001 PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TOUR & 9/11: Farewell to Amerika.

        2002 INTERNET / MUSIC-VIDEOS / TRIPLE X – The media landscape is changing.

        2008 “LIEBE IST FÜR ALLE DA” – Album Recordings in the USA.

        2010 USA – COMEBACK IN TRIUMPH: Madison Square Garden.

        Alongside the documentary footage, the film features a vast number of US and
        Canadian artists and interview partners, such as Iggy Pop, Chad Smith (Red
        Hot Chili Peppers), Moby, Melissa auf der Maur, Marilyn Manson, Kiefer
        Sutherland, Steven Tyler, Jonathan Davis (Korn), CJ Ramone, Scott Ian (Anthrax), Slipknot, System of a Down, KISS, and Taylor Momsen.
        Source: http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/rammstein
        "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

        - Raymond M. Smullyan

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        • #64
          Even knowing that is a LIFAD DVD, It's gong to be released in 2015, am I The only one who finds weird it won't include anyrhing after MSG gig like the US tour, ithe DVD's name is Rammstein in Amerika and many fans went to those gigs.

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          • #65
            I'm wondering why is there no CD this time XD
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Maya View Post
              Even knowing that is a LIFAD DVD, It's gong to be released in 2015, am I The only one who finds weird it won't include anyrhing after MSG gig like the US tour, ithe DVD's name is Rammstein in Amerika and many fans went to those gigs.
              Well, RZK mentioned in several interview that there were three DVDs on the way, here are the first two, so maybe the third will have some of the later shows?

              I too would like to see a newer show in a pro-quality and not one of the countless amateur recordings that can be found of almost all concert of the later years (even though they call it pro-shot)

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              • #67
                ^Even though it is being billed as a single release, RiA will already include 2 DVDs. That only leaves the Bercy show from 2012, which according to RammsteinWorld, will be released sometime next year.

                Originally posted by Maya View Post
                Even knowing that is a LIFAD DVD, It's gong to be released in 2015, am I The only one who finds weird it won't include anyrhing after MSG gig like the US tour, ithe DVD's name is Rammstein in Amerika and many fans went to those gigs.
                It is even weirder if we take into account the band even had reporters follow them around during the 2012 dates.
                Last edited by Snake; 08-18-2015, 07:46 PM.
                "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

                - Raymond M. Smullyan

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                • #68
                  ^Some of the photos included were taken during that tour

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                  • #69
                    Well, it seems to me that the concept will be that they show the gig and in the documentary the story of how it all lead to this. They'll show their history linked to America and how the MSG-show was the result of years of evolution. From that point of view it seems logic that they don't use stuff from afterwards: the gig is showed as the "result", the grand finale, the big achievement after all these years building up recognition in the New World. It's all part of the concept / perspective of the DVD, I guess.

                    That doesn't mean the footage from afterwards will be thrown away of course. I've got the feeling that the decision for MIG actually came during their America tour (after all it was footage from there that was used for the first promotion and announcements of MIG). It would be quite plausibe if they used the material from that time as some kind of introduction to the whole MIG-project, which they will probably add to the Bercy-DVD.

                    Originally posted by Snake View Post
                    That only leaves the Bercy show from 2012, which according to RammsteinWorld, will be released sometime next year.
                    .
                    Is there a reason why RammsteinWorld would know this any better than other fans? Just wondering...
                    Dort wo der Horizont
                    Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                    Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                    Auf das du mich dort findest

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
                      Is there a reason why RammsteinWorld would know this any better than other fans? Just wondering...
                      No, they are just guessing like every one else, since we do know from interviews that it exists

                      Like any other rumour-based story, it's more a wish-list than anything else

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
                        Is there a reason why RammsteinWorld would know this any better than other fans? Just wondering...
                        They have a proven record of having reliable sources (which they never disclose).

                        Originally posted by The Rose View Post
                        No, they are just guessing like every one else, since we do know from interviews that it exists
                        Unlikely.
                        "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

                        - Raymond M. Smullyan

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Snake View Post
                          Unlikely.
                          Well it's a pretty safe bet. They wont release it this year, since they are releasing RiA, and they are going into pre-production for a new CD now, but as Till said, it'll probably take two years, which means it'll be ready in 2017, so the third DVD will be released in 2016 so to have a new product out in that year.

                          In the camera-world fan-pages are actually called Nikon-rumour, Canon-rumour, 4/3rd-rumour etc. but they can also come up with rather precise guesses, and the closer to release dates the more accurate they are. But even with the best of sources, it's only guesses and rumours until announcement, and for something a year away: Well the band can change their minds about releasing the stuff several times. Remember how we all thought the dvd would be released last year?

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                          • #73
                            ^Yes, the band can (and probably will) change their minds. But my point was, they are not just guessing. They do have a source of information.
                            "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

                            - Raymond M. Smullyan

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                            • #74
                              I think that even the band hasn't got the answer
                              Last edited by Maya; 08-19-2015, 02:49 AM.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Snake View Post
                                ^Yes, the band can (and probably will) change their minds. But my point was, they are not just guessing. They do have a source of information.
                                I got your point, I just think that in this instance, they are guessing.

                                Or as Maya says:
                                Originally posted by Maya View Post
                                I think that even the band hasn't got the answer

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