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FORUM RULES ABOUT WEB-BASED LINKS TO MUSIC AND VIDEO'S

Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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  • Waidmann
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    Originally posted by Snake View Post
    if I have to bitch about something
    You don't have to.

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  • The Rose
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    Is there a way you can stop a thread from showing up in the "what's new" on the forum frontpage?

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  • Maya
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    I'm sure many people is interested in this thread, not only for criticsm, just because They are curious.

    I'll go for some peanuts

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  • Snake
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    The fact that the DVD is a blend of NY, Montreal and Mexico does not personally upset me. In fact, if I have to bitch about something it gotta be the editing. Too many quick cuts between shots, the GoPros have shitty quality and look terrible in the blu ray edition, and they made a shit job out of showcasing the pyro, the light effects, and the stage. It has less continuity errors than Volkerball, but editing wise, it is not much better, and in some aspects is worse.

    Having said that and going back on topic, I think the stopwatching and measuring of Chrisss are not that silly, given that the delivered product was marketed as being a live show from the USA, and then in the end it is mostly comprised by footage/audio that are not from that event.

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  • The Rose
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    There is no suspicion, it's a fact, it says so in the end credits. There is footage from both Montreal and Mexico. But why sit with a stopwatch and measure it, that is what I cannot understand. You started before it was even released, and now you go on and on. Just sit back and enjoy it . . . please, pretty please

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  • Chrisss Nofff
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    Originally posted by Art in Heaven View Post
    So if/when the Bercy gig comes out will you dedicate a whole thread to what song or indeed perhaps 3 seconds of a song was filmed on a particular day?
    When you got the Rammstein in Amerika DVD/Bluray, did you actually watch it and enjoy it, or were you sitting there with a notepad as you flicked between the DVD and YouTube footage of random gigs?
    What I'm trying to say is, why do you care?

    No, the first few times I watched it I was completely open minded and just accepted it for what it was. My point is, there are always going to be discussions if something was edited or not, and how the "actual" show was. This thread is here to only point out these things. I noticed these imperfections after viewing it several times.


    And again, don't take this as criticsm or complaining. I am sure that there are forums with even less relevant threads than this. Snake simply said that there is suspicion that the audio and video footage isn't completely from MSG, and I simply gave my take on the whole thing.


    That being said, yes I DID like "Live from Madison Square Garden". The sound quality is flawless, the picture is sharp and clear, the coloring and grading works really well. It's overall a good product. I have my personal opinions about it, but they are only my opinions.
    Last edited by Chrisss Nofff; 10-30-2015, 03:14 PM.

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  • Maya
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    Maybe, it would be funny... and a way to find out from which day were the images. xD

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  • Snake
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    ^Maybe you will spot the Portuguese flag. But that is a huge "maybe".
    Last edited by Snake; 10-30-2015, 03:08 AM.

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  • Maya
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    I'm glad to say I just watch it and enjoy it, and I wonder if the Bercy thread will be dedicated to find Snake...

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  • Art in Heaven
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    So if/when the Bercy gig comes out will you dedicate a whole thread to what song or indeed perhaps 3 seconds of a song was filmed on a particular day?
    When you got the Rammstein in Amerika DVD/Bluray, did you actually watch it and enjoy it, or were you sitting there with a notepad as you flicked between the DVD and YouTube footage of random gigs?
    What I'm trying to say is, why do you care?

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  • Chrisss Nofff
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    Originally posted by The Rose View Post
    And here you go again. Nitpicking, who gives a flying fart
    Don't judge me.....I can't help it.....

    Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
    Now I follow, Chrisss (I think).
    Yes, now you do

    Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
    Not sure if those changes were really necessary though. Despite some small misfortunes during the NY concert, I guess it was great. But maybe not entirely representative for their tour / stunts / etc. and therefore they changed so much? And surely the name MSG is a ticket seller, adding to the epicness of the concert.
    They usually film two shows in case something goes terribly wrong the first time. In "Live Aus Berlin" and in the "Brixton Academy" segment, this worked really well since the band played several days at these same veneus. The Nimes concert and the MSG show we're of course only one day-shows. They needed to film additional footage for back-up. However it might seem they felt so pleased after the Montreal concert that they only set up a few cameras during the ACTUAL show. It seems weird calling your dvd "Live from MSG", but like you said, that was the whole point of this release. In any case, all those problems won't be on the Bercy-DVD since they played two days in a row in that arena.

    Done and Dusted have done a great job with releasing Rammstein's live material, but I am really excited to see what Åkerlund is up to.

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  • Waidmann
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    Now I follow, Chrisss (I think). Not sure if those changes were really necessary though. Despite some small misfortunes during the NY concert, I guess it was great. But maybe not entirely representative for their tour / stunts / etc. and therefore they changed so much? And surely the name MSG is a ticket seller, adding to the epicness of the concert.

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  • The Rose
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    And here you go again. Nitpicking, who gives a flying fart

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  • Chrisss Nofff
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    Just to make things clear, I have always stated that I find "Rammstein in Amerika" to be a high quality product. I have enjoyed the overal concertmovie, and I can understand that the band wanted to change some things here and there. When I started this thread my intentions were to simply point out what exactley Rammstein fixes or redubs in their live material. Although I usually dislike redubs, my posts weren't meant as pure critcism.

    I even love parts of this release. "Wiener Blut" doesn't need a music video anymore, the performance seen on "Live from MSG" IS in my opinion a perfect music video. The same goes for "Waidmanns Heil" and "B*******". It doesn't top "Live aus Berlin" in my opinion, and I'm sure I will like the Bercy-DVD more, but don't forget I do enjoy this release.

    That being said, there are a few things which I can't get pass. Remember these are just my personal opinions. I don't need to make an analysis of the camera-angles vs. pictures of the stage like some fanpages have done. The easiest way to know that the majority is probably from Montreal, is by looking at Till during Rammlied. In New York he was covered with coffee-body paint and make-up, in Montreal he was pretty much clean. If you look at the Rammlied-video now, you will know were most footage comes from.

    If you add what I mentioned above, and the fact that not all audio comes from New York, I can't really take the title "Live from Madison Square Garden" that seriously. I don't feel like nitpicking the release to death, I just wanted to point out the few things that just lower the score in my opinion.

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  • The Rose
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    ^Exactly, why not just enjoy the product instead of picking it apart. Why search for flaws when the overall is absolutely brilliant

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