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FORUM RULES ABOUT WEB-BASED LINKS TO MUSIC AND VIDEO'S

Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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  • Thank You Letter

    Hi Rammstein fans!
    We came up with an idea to write a the ‘thank you’ letter to Rammstein to show our love and appreciation of their work. As some of them expressed that pyrotechnics overshadows the music and they don’t enjoy it anymore, we would like to show them our support no matter what, and that we stand behind them if they choose to change the live shows just a bit. If you want to join us and want to say ‘thank you’ to Rammstein, you can do it via signing this letter. You can also add your own message for them in the “reason for signing section” underneath the letter.

  • #2
    Of course they can change the shows. The pyros are great and so are the classic songs they perform each night, but neither are required for an excellent Rammstein concert. One of my favorite live songs is Weißes Fleisch and it never has any pyro, so... They work fine even without them. It's a superb addition mostly, but never a necessity IMO.
    Dort wo der Horizont
    Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
    Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
    Auf das du mich dort findest

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    • #3
      I don't believe they have the balls to drop the pyro and show and focus solely on the songs. Not at this point.
      "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

      - Raymond M. Smullyan

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
        Of course they can change the shows. The pyros are great and so are the classic songs they perform each night, but neither are required for an excellent Rammstein concert. One of my favorite live songs is Weißes Fleisch and it never has any pyro, so... They work fine even without them. It's a superb addition mostly, but never a necessity IMO.
        It used to have pyro boots when Till jumped off the side of the stage....

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        • #5
          Yes, that's right, how could I forget !

          Well, then I mention B******** , Stripped, Reise, Reise, Haifisch, Mann gegen Mann... They don't need any effects to be great. Nor does the rest really.
          Dort wo der Horizont
          Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
          Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
          Auf das du mich dort findest

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          • #6
            Thank You for Your comment Waidmann, very beautifully phrased, I couldn't put it better myself!

            Interesting comment Snake, well since Rammstein believe that provocation is an artist's duty, and address taboo topics, have successfully sued the German government regarding censorship released a single on a porn website, were jailed over a song and did not stop performing it but rather, perform it in a more explicit manner now,, they definitely do have balls in my humble opinion! In any case, the letter is not intended as a demand regarding that they drop it (we'd not be so presumptuous to tell them what to do), but rather expressing that we not demand for them to have pyro; like Waidmann nicely said, that it is not a necessity since their music in and of itself is wonderful and appreciated.

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            • #7
              I suppose they could drop it if they'd make an environmental statement of it. They consume lots of electricity and fuel each night; if they would make a big public statement of willing to spare the planet a bit I'm sure they can pull it off. With their costumes, acting and machinery they can do enough to rule out the fire, for sure.
              Dort wo der Horizont
              Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
              Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
              Auf das du mich dort findest

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Der kalte Mond View Post
                Interesting comment Snake, well since Rammstein believe that provocation is an artist's duty, and address taboo topics, have successfully sued the German government regarding censorship released a single on a porn website, were jailed over a song and did not stop performing it but rather, perform it in a more explicit manner now,, they definitely do have balls in my humble opinion!
                All the things you mentioned ultimately resulted in more coverage for the band, which in turn means more interest in what they are doing, which in turn equates to profit. Eschewing their stage and pyrotechnics would be the opposite of all of that. They are so well known for their elaborate stage act that dropping most of it would inevitably result in considerably less people interested in watching them live. Yes, the loyal fans would still support them regardless, but we are a minority compareted to the broader audience that is drawn to see them live.
                "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

                - Raymond M. Smullyan

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                • #9
                  Ah I see the perspective You're coming from Snake and respect it. In my humble opinion t don't think of Rammstein as concerned about profit, they hold socialist values after all eg. Mehr, the fact in Mein Leben Flake said in a world that is oversaturated with music nobody would have been better off if they made ten albums instead of five (because it's better to make quality music than just have as much as possible), TIll said on one interview he lives a humble live, and the only extravagance is he purchased a banrupt zoo with Gert Hof to prevent the animals separated.

                  That is a really interesting and cool angle Waidmann! Till certainly has mentioned caring about the environment in many interviews so it definitely is consistent with their values! And definitely agree they have so many interesting elements even without the fire.Indeed personally I find it entertaining enough just to watch them - they play so masterfully, so I just marvel at that alone.

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                  • #10
                    They could make a big hit by doing an acoustic gig once (or a small tour). It would be epic! People would be thrilled to see them once without all the fire and machinery and it would definitely make people excited and wondering how it would be. Richard was once asked in a belgian interview if they'd ever considered an unplugged show and Richard was really overthrown by the question and said he'd really think it was a genuine good idea. I'll try and find the interview if you like. Ever since this interview I never stopped wondering how it would be. I think us big fans could easily imagine several songs that would work great this way.
                    Dort wo der Horizont
                    Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                    Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                    Auf das du mich dort findest

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