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Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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  • Hmm, these extra effects seem weird for me, and it doesn't strike me as a positive thing just yet, but it might have a better effect than we all think now. I'll rest in silence about it untill I've seen it. About the audience being more or less soundless and a bit absent as well, though that strikes me as the weirdest aspect: how does this all work well without the audience participation? I can't imagine it being the same feeling as if you were at the concert (despite that being the purpose of the director), but again, I'll watch it before I judge it.

    @Chrisss Nofff: you say the filming of Völlkerbal was somewhat sloppy ? Why??? Never heard anything but great stuff about the filming and I can't see why I wouldn't agree!
    Dort wo der Horizont
    Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
    Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
    Auf das du mich dort findest

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    • ^Waidmann --- I wasn't critisizing the footage of the Nimes concert on Völkerball. But according to RammsteinWorld, after the fact the filming of the Bercy show got cancelled, the band was looking for a large outdoor show or festival appearance to film. They landed on Nimes, but when they were at the location they had to improvise. The couldn't mount any cranes, and placing dollies and tracks was also apparantly not done. So they filmed a lot with handheld cameras, and some of the footage became hard to use. Here is were i used the word "sloppy". Maybe I should have used "rushed" or "unprepared".However, they were able to find the best material in editing, and used some footage from Birmingham. I love the final product, the Nimes footage is in my opinion among the best concert-films I know.

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      • Originally posted by Chrisss Nofff View Post
        ^Waidmann --- I wasn't critisizing the footage of the Nimes concert on Völkerball. But according to RammsteinWorld, after the fact the filming of the Bercy show got cancelled, the band was looking for a large outdoor show or festival appearance to film. They landed on Nimes, but when they were at the location they had to improvise. The couldn't mount any cranes, and placing dollies and tracks was also apparantly not done. So they filmed a lot with handheld cameras, and some of the footage became hard to use. Here is were i used the word "sloppy". Maybe I should have used "rushed" or "unprepared".However, they were able to find the best material in editing, and used some footage from Birmingham. I love the final product, the Nimes footage is in my opinion among the best concert-films I know.
        Okay, that's an entire different matter to me than "sloppy" . Than I follow you.
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        Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
        Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
        Auf das du mich dort findest

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        • Meh I've always struggled to get on board with the Nimes film. Half the footage is from Birmingham (and looks better, not the crowd but camera quality) and overall the audio was a bit weak. Till's voice was suffering by that point of the tour. I'll always prefer the Brixton 2005 footage/audio.. but I'm biast as I was there

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          • As i saw, until this moment there are quite a lot of negative revirews. Most of them are related to those exaggerated effects: snake tongue during MGM and vampire teeths for the from row fans. In my opinion that's just way too much.

            Today I was thinking about this upcoming DVD and I said "what if the "physical release will be without those effects?" Somehow it makes sense, let's think: extra work was required to edit the show for the cinemas, to cut off 5 songs and they used the opportunity to add those extra effects just for the cinema version, ofcourse in order to cause all kind of reations. Remember, negative or positive reactions are both a type of promo. So they used the extra opportunity with this cinema release to test the reaction of fans, to have fun with all kind of new experiments, to offer something different etc. Not to mention that this cinema release it is adressed not just to the fans, but to a wider public.

            Following these arguments, I would say that when the DVD does come out, it's gonna be without those effects. First of all because the DVD will be bought only by the fans, those who are not fans and already saw the show in cinemas, they won't spend a damn euro for a physical release. Also, the cinema version, at least from what i've heard, it is focused more on the band, not the fans, it's some kind of atrsy fartsy stuff for a wider public.

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            • The Chaser ^ I don't think so. I think the only difference between this version and the DVD version will be the additional 5 songs. The film is what it is whether we like it or not. Too much work would have gone into the effects just for it to be shown in cinema and never ever again. From day one this concert film was meant to be unique and different. Again whether we like it or not. It's an experiment that the band would seem to approve of. In some ways we need to stop thinking of it as a live concert and simply a film.

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              • ^I agree with Ramm91, the effects will be on the dvd/blue-ray as well.

                And the people at the cinema and the people buying the dvd will be largely the same.

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                • ^I think it's a little too early to say that "many" reviews have been negative. Out of the 4 that I have read, 3 were positiv and 1 somewhat unenthusiastic about the film. While I know that for example Steven Spielberg's "E.T" was released on DVD with the option to change between it's original theatrical release and the 2002 remastered version with added effects, because of complaints that people wanted to see the original. I doubt that this will be the case here. They simply don't have the time to respond so quickly (assuming they would).As far as recent reviews go, this one: ( http://www.tagesspiegel.de/kultur/ko...19516090.html# ) actually called "Rammstein: Paris" the best concertfilm in decades, and said the film introduced a new style to the genre.
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                  • Originally posted by Ramm91 View Post
                    The Chaser ^ I don't think so. I think the only difference between this version and the DVD version will be the additional 5 songs. The film is what it is whether we like it or not. Too much work would have gone into the effects just for it to be shown in cinema and never ever again. From day one this concert film was meant to be unique and different. Again whether we like it or not. It's an experiment that the band would seem to approve of. In some ways we need to stop thinking of it as a live concert and simply a film.
                    yeah, some kind of longer video, "official video" of 98 minutes

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                    • Originally posted by The Chaser View Post
                      yeah, some kind of longer video, "official video" of 98 minutes
                      It's 128 + 13 min of "making of . . . ." But the link for the DVD has been taken down again

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                      • Serious question.. *IF* there is a big backlash from this film.. (and yes we should keep positive for now) will it see the band avoiding working with Jonas in the future on music videos? Rammstein live releases have always been a big deal (and this one was very expensive) and if the fan reception towards this is bad will it make the band think twice about using him again for projects?

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                        • ^I doubt that will be the reaction. It seems that Rammstein don't really care much about reception, with the exception of their live show and concerts. At least that's what they claim, and that's how it appears. I do think that the band likes Åkerlund regardless. Not everyone liked the "Pussy" and "Mein Land" video, but the band still tried to hire him as often as possible.

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                          • Originally posted by Ramm91 View Post
                            Meh I've always struggled to get on board with the Nimes film. Half the footage is from Birmingham (and looks better, not the crowd but camera quality) and overall the audio was a bit weak. Till's voice was suffering by that point of the tour. I'll always prefer the Brixton 2005 footage/audio.. but I'm biast as I was there
                            Not half of the footage is form Birmingham! From Reise, reise to Morgenstern less than half is from Birmingham (5 shots per song, give or take) and after Du Riechst so gut, which cuts the show in half more or less, there's only a small amount of footage that's not from Nîmes (and Rammstein, Sonne and Stripped have only Nîmes footage).

                            I don't think Till had his best night either, but I still very much like the performance he put down that show. I like the flaws and tiredness in this case, it adds to the effect somehow.
                            No complaints whatsoever about the audio, but I hear some people do.
                            Dort wo der Horizont
                            Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                            Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                            Auf das du mich dort findest

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                            • Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
                              Not half of the footage is form Birmingham! From Reise, reise to Morgenstern less than half is from Birmingham (5 shots per song, give or take) and after Du Riechst so gut, which cuts the show in half more or less, there's only a small amount of footage that's not from Nîmes (and Rammstein, Sonne and Stripped have only Nîmes footage).

                              I don't think Till had his best night either, but I still very much like the performance he put down that show. I like the flaws and tiredness in this case, it adds to the effect somehow.
                              No complaints whatsoever about the audio, but I hear some people do.
                              What Birmingham concert was that then? Because I've been to three concerts in Birmingham over the years, and I'm wondering if maybe there are clips from one of the ones I was at?
                              May 16th 2002 - Docklands Arena, London
                              July 15th 2005 - NEC Arena, Birmingham
                              February 3rd 2010 - LG Arena, Birmingham
                              february 25th 2012 - LG Arena, Birmingham
                              June 16th 2013 - Download festival, Donington

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                              • Originally posted by I Hurt You View Post
                                What Birmingham concert was that then? Because I've been to three concerts in Birmingham over the years, and I'm wondering if maybe there are clips from one of the ones I was at?
                                Birmingham 2005 July I think

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