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FORUM RULES ABOUT WEB-BASED LINKS TO MUSIC AND VIDEO'S

Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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"Rammstein Paris": Next live DVD?

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  • Originally posted by Ramm91 View Post
    The issue I think is this fast paced editing that has been mentioned in a review and noticed by anyone who saw the leaked clip. When you're sitting there watching that on the big screen for 1 hour 40 minutes it can be quite exhausting to keep up. With that in mind, I think it could take away some of the enjoyment of the concert which is my #1 concern.
    Mine too... I hope those "slower" parts won't suffer from it.

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    • Originally posted by Rocky Chopin View Post
      Mine too... I hope those "slower" parts won't suffer from it.
      I actually think the slower songs in the setlist will be beautiful. With the slower tempo of those songs the editing pace should be reduced. I just think it's the heavy parts of the other songs (mainly the chorus and opening) that will be affected by fast editing. But we will see!

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      • I'm not against effects, but seriously, a tongue for Till during Mann Gegen Mann and vampire teeths added to the fans form the first row? What a hell is in Akerlund's mind??!

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        • ^I'm not sure if I'll love or hate it

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          • At least we now have an explanation for the "animation" we read about earlier. All I can say is: Rammstein must have approved, and until now, they have made choices that I'm fine with. . . . and I'll have an opinion when I've seen it.

            Ramm91 is right about that we have been expecting an ordinary concert-film and now it seems we are getting something else. We'll know next week what it's all about.

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            • Originally posted by The Rose View Post
              At least we now have an explanation for the "animation" we read about earlier. All I can say is: Rammstein must have approved, and until now, they have made choices that I'm fine with. . . . and I'll have an opinion when I've seen it.
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              • I have read a couple of reviews of the film. Most of them notice that Åkerlund uses fast editing, but not to a degree which makes the film hard to watch. In addition, the sound has gotten mixed reception. One reviewer says it was mixed ver sloppy, and there was a very uneven blend between the music, crowd noise and sound effects. Others say the sound was top notch. When it comes to the effects, the review from "laut.de" says that they can be very weird and don't seem to fit to the film. In addition Åkerlund doesn't seem to care about continuety at all. Bandmembers fly from one side of the stage to the next in less than a second. However, the review was actually positiv, and the headline was "Pure goosebumps for 98 minutes". The reviewer called "Rammstein: Paris" not a concert-film, but "a documentary about the quality of Rammstein's performance and live-show". In an interview Åkerlund had with "TeamRock", he told the magazine that he actually dislikes concert-filmes. In his mind they are pointless, you go to a concert to hear the music "live" and see the artist with your own eyes. Watching a recording of a concert is thereby somewhat pointless. Therefore his attitude towards concert-films is to use the tools available to him in film, to create a similar feeling of being on a concert. I was a little dissapointed when I heard about all of these added effects. I thought it would be a waste of a great performance filmed in the best way imaginable (2 nights with 30 cameras). BUT, I must say that I appreciate that Rammstein are still taking chances like this. Their previous concert-films were all shot pretty traditionally, but in different styles. I would say that the editing in LAB was fast and diverse, Völkerball was a lot slower (partially because of the fact that the concert was filmed somewhat sloppy), and the Madison gig was again fast but more modern and sometimes almost cinematic. Making a concert film in which each song is like a music video, completely different in look and style, but they are all presented in the order of a concert to gives a sense of narrative, is something very original to be honest. In addition this might be the best tour tour to do such an experiment with. The "Made in Germany"-tour did not present any new material (except for "Mann gegen Mann"), and many performances had slightly improved effects, the only major thing which was new was the bridge, B-stage and the big main A-stage. I guess fans would be less conflicted, had we already gotten good recordings of songs like "Mutter", "Bück Dich" and "Mein Teil". But I am sure that the band will deliver such material either through their YouTube-account or a collection DVD-set.
                Last edited by Chrisss Nofff; 03-14-2017, 08:13 PM.

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                • My anti-virus programs make using this website very difficult. I can't create paragraphs in my posts apparantley.

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                  • Which antivirus do you use?

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                    • So basically from that interview Jonas thinks concert films are pointless because concerts are meant for you to be there to experience it. So he's used effects like giving Till a snakes tongue (again) and adding other video effects to make this film more real? Hmmm lol

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                      • The newest version of McAfee.

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                        • ^Ramm91I know, but everything Jonas did, the band approved. He said in the interview that in his discussions with the band, they would tell him if he went too far. But aside from that, they wanted him to create his own movie the way he wanted.

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                          • Of course the snake tongue and others will make us feel like being on the concert.

                            I'm trying to open my mind for this film... I wonder what @Snake thinks about this.

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                            • Originally posted by Chrisss Nofff View Post
                              ^Ramm91I know, but everything Jonas did, the band approved. He said in the interview that in his discussions with the band, they would tell him if he went too far. But aside from that, they wanted him to create his own movie the way he wanted.
                              They approved it of course, but they don't always have good ideas. I can't forget how they destroyed the MHB video, I love the Recuenco's video and I would like to see a complete Zoran Bihac version, not that mix.

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                              • Originally posted by Maya View Post
                                They approved it of course, but they don't always have good ideas. I can't forget how they destroyed the MHB video, I love the Recuenco's video and I would like to see a complete Zoran Bihac version, not that mix.
                                I've just gone back and watched that video. I really like it although there are a few elements that don't work. The opening when the music comes in doesn't seem to fit well. However with an addition of a couple of shots I think it could have been fixed. The final version was okay but I liked the design/character elements of Recuenco's version. Slightly off topic now hehe

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