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FORUM RULES ABOUT WEB-BASED LINKS TO MUSIC AND VIDEO'S

Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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  • #91
    Nah, I cannot imagine a signifcant part of the fans checking out big enough to break their sales rates in a significant way. They're way too high up there for that. And as you give yourself as an example of moved on and being someone who cannot bring himself to care anymore: note that you will still going to the next tour AND even probably going to buy that new album. As many will as well. If it's not about curiousity, it will be just about completing the set or giving it a go or some nostalgic thing. This is the most popular german speaking band in history we're talking about; they pretty sure can pull off almost everything now, like Richard implied in a 2016 interview. It also seems like a very new generation-minded way losing interest in a band when they don't bring out records for a long time. I don't think many older people, especially "casual fans" (like my two older brothers, my friend Matthias, my mother,...) would mind buying an album of a band they liked long ago; they don't watch the calendar and constantly remind themselves of how long it's been since a last album (they probably don't even know it exactly). They just hear new stuff is out and buy the record.

    Related to that, and not saying that you (Snake) are in this case, but I will never understand people who are getting mad at Rammstein for this long waiting. They don't owe anyone anything, they didn't sign any contract with the fans claiming that they would produce this or that within this period. Nor was this anyway something we actually earned or so. Maybe if it were you it’d be different. Maybe you’d do it for this reason or that. Peace, whatever. But no band owes you your personal happy ending, especially not at the expense of their own personal goals (which at least several of them had, which can be seen in Till's, Richard's and Flake's side projects, to name just one thing).
    Dort wo der Horizont
    Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
    Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
    Auf das du mich dort findest

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    • #92
      ^I did not meant to imply that they owe us anything. They are totally within their right to do whatever they feel like. I am not mad at them. But by the same logic, I am also not obligated to maintain interest in them if their chain of decisions completely fails to hold my enthusiasm. And if turns out that the amount of people that don't give a damn anymore is as insignificant as you believe it is, than kudos to the fanbase. In my opinion, they have maintained more loyalty than the band deserves.
      Last edited by Snake; 09-19-2018, 10:36 PM.
      "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

      - Raymond M. Smullyan

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Snake View Post
        Sure, I will go watch them live if I get the chance.
        Will you? You didn’t come to Resurrection Fest.

        Originally posted by Snake View Post
        I simply cannot bring myself to care as much as I used to. I am done as a dedicated fan.
        We know that, it’s a pity.

        I agree with Waidmann I’m sure once the album is out, it Will be a great success, we have seen it every year with the movie, the tours, the albums.... Not only the dedícated fans, all the fanbase will buy it.

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        • #94
          The machine has grown much of course (as well as fan's expectations), so it takes time, especially if they want to take a well earned break. They have heavy, big theatrical shows, so every next tour has to live up to the previous one. Plus, they are not a small group with some roadies anymore, they are a big company of at least 30 people now. Almost every tour has to be a world tour now, has to have merchandise, many PR, publicity, interviews,.. has to have good deals to make the lot earn some as well. It's not anymore a band wanting to play, it's a business that's got to make some money, so this implies strategies, plans, targets, analysis and results. This takes time, and we see it more and more with these big bands, as the industry faces difficulties due to internet and download and so. Guns N' Roses hasn't made a record in almost a decade, Metallica took 8 years as well now... Only Iron Maiden seems to keep a rather strong pace up until now...
          Last edited by Waidmann; 09-23-2018, 03:25 PM.
          Dort wo der Horizont
          Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
          Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
          Auf das du mich dort findest

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
            . Guns N' Roses hasn't made a record in almost a decade...
            Saw an update from Slash the other day, saying GnR will record their first album in 25 years. So it seems like no one really considers Chinese Democracy a GnR recording, but a solo-album

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            • #96
              ^Yeah, haters gonna hate, I guess. Or deny in this case. Anyhow, I liked it and just hope, like with Rammstein, that all their recorded material will somehow see the light of day. Imagine what great stuff Rammstein and Guns still have in the vault.
              Dort wo der Horizont
              Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
              Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
              Auf das du mich dort findest

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
                ^Yeah, haters gonna hate, I guess. Or deny in this case. Anyhow, I liked it and just hope, like with Rammstein, that all their recorded material will somehow see the light of day. Imagine what great stuff Rammstein and Guns still have in the vault.
                I didn't say it wasn't good, I haven't heard it, and I'm just quoting Slash - and I look forward to hearing what they'll come up with now, just as I would like to hear from the Rammstein vault

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                • #98
                  ^No, wasn't talking about you either
                  Dort wo der Horizont
                  Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                  Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                  Auf das du mich dort findest

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                  • #99
                    Seems like there's a sort of leak again, like often with them shortly before a release of them...

                    If you search for "Rammstein hare krishna" you should find it...
                    Dort wo der Horizont
                    Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                    Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                    Auf das du mich dort findest

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                    • In an interview for musicradar.com Paul landers has talked about the new album:

                      Speaking of working on music...how's the new Rammstein material coming along?

                      "Right now, it looks like this new record will be coming out next spring, and what we've been mainly doing is playing together in a circle, with all the guys in one room. We all go into the mixing desk and I had my PL1 prototype going direct. Same for the some of the other guys - our drummer [Christoph Schneider] has these electronic drums, so we've been using that to play a bunch of ideas together."

                      "It hasn't been like a pre-production where each member is alone; it's been more of an all-together kind of thing. We liked the sound of it so much that we've decided to make the record more of a band-unit recording than a bunch of guys playing separately. We'll have to see how it all ends up on the record, but the basic idea is you are hearing a band playing... you could say it's inspired by our live sound. That's exactly what we're going for. The PL1 really helped on that front because it had every sound I needed."

                      Source: https://www.musicradar.com/news/ramm...ered-with-them
                      Last edited by Maya; 10-04-2018, 01:12 AM.

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                      • Ok, so now we're definitely sure it's going to happen in the spring (early or late), because obviously a great deal of the 2019 tour has been booked (the rumors form everywhere are too big in number to doubt that), and they won't start that without the new album being out there.
                        Dort wo der Horizont
                        Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                        Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                        Auf das du mich dort findest

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