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FORUM RULES ABOUT WEB-BASED LINKS TO MUSIC AND VIDEO'S

Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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  • #16
    I attended the show at MSG - wish I was at Montreal. I hope they have elements of both shows. The MSG show was a milestone for Rammstein. I think it is important to document parts of the show in the DVD - for historic reasons. I, too, remember hearing? reading? somewhere that the Montreal show would be the primary elements in the live DVD.

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    • #17
      Since this video as been published by the actual director of the upcomming DVD, I post it here:



      I ressurected this thread because the footage is from the LIFAD tour at MSG show, so its highly probable that we are getting a LIFAD dvd
      "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

      - Raymond M. Smullyan

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      • #18
        Looks cool. Awful sound quality though.

        Too bad if they're using MSG material for the DVD. The show had some failures like the entrance door getting stuck during Rammlied, Till forgetting words during DRSG (or what song was it) and the pyros seem to be somewhat downgraded, for example the flames in Waidmann's Heil are smaller than in the european shows and the fireworks during Du Hast aren't linked to the mixing table.

        And too bad if they're still making a LIFAD DVD. I liked LIFAD, both the album and the show, but it was released over 3 years ago. They have no need to promo the album anymore, so I just don't get why would they release a DVD based on such an old material. Well, let's just hope that this is just a bonus song and the main DVD will be MiG. Or that there would be 2DVD, both LIFAD and MiG, but that's just too good to be true.

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        • #19
          ^Well, for Lichtspielhaus they used some material that was more than 5 years old, and the public response to it was very positive. So I don't see the rub in releasing a LIFAD DVD at all. And sorry to split hairs here, but saying LIFAD is released over 3 years ago makes you one bad mathematician.

          I'll judge the DVD when I see it. This extract however looks very promising to me!
          Dort wo der Horizont
          Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
          Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
          Auf das du mich dort findest

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Salmari View Post
            Looks cool. Awful sound quality though.

            Too bad if they're using MSG material for the DVD. The show had some failures like the entrance door getting stuck during Rammlied, Till forgetting words during DRSG (or what song was it) and the pyros seem to be somewhat downgraded, for example the flames in Waidmann's Heil are smaller than in the european shows and the fireworks during Du Hast aren't linked to the mixing table.

            And too bad if they're still making a LIFAD DVD. I liked LIFAD, both the album and the show, but it was released over 3 years ago. They have no need to promo the album anymore, so I just don't get why would they release a DVD based on such an old material. Well, let's just hope that this is just a bonus song and the main DVD will be MiG. Or that there would be 2DVD, both LIFAD and MiG, but that's just too good to be true.
            Thats why they will probably patch all that shit up with footage from the montreal show. Both shows were filmed to produce a single DVD.

            Also, I agree with you about the LIFAD/MIG trade off.
            "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

            - Raymond M. Smullyan

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            • #21
              RZK said in an interview their last album was like cancer, you know. The fans didn't mind seeing them without a new album out, you know. I know I sure didn't mind ! I would love to see them again !

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              • #22
                ^I always considered it neccessary for their credibility as a living band though. If they would just started touring in 2009 without new material, lots of people would consider the band to be dead, and just like Motörhead or AC/DC living of their old material. LIFAD showed the band is still alive and can surprise even now.
                As a fan, I offcourse wouldn't immediately mind it if they just toured a bit without new stuff, but in the end I'd expect something new anyway.
                Dort wo der Horizont
                Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                Auf das du mich dort findest

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                • #23
                  ^Thats also my opinion. Even though I would prefer to see them touring without a new album and only using their old material, their credebility would be damaged.

                  But even if it gets damaged, if they manage to pull off sold out venues anyway, it probably doesn't matter to them.
                  "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

                  - Raymond M. Smullyan

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                  • #24
                    I am hoping the MiG album and tour was a way of saying goodbye to the old material and making room to continue on. I like the old material better, but I want the band to stay fresh still.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
                      ^I always considered it neccessary for their credibility as a living band though. If they would just started touring in 2009 without new material, lots of people would consider the band to be dead, and just like Motörhead or AC/DC living of their old material. LIFAD showed the band is still alive and can surprise even now.
                      As a fan, I offcourse wouldn't immediately mind it if they just toured a bit without new stuff, but in the end I'd expect something new anyway.
                      Normal protocol is to release an album and then tour 6 weeks later, or so I heard.
                      I actually didn't mind LIFAD. I love Frühling In Paris. I think Pussy is funny as hell. Of course if some guy were to say that to me, he would get punched. I like Waidmann's Heil and Rammleid.
                      It is hard for bands who have been out a while because some fans want the old sound and some want them to update their sound and to "stop living in the past".
                      If Till doesn't retire I hope they put a new kick ass album out. I know the boys have it in them. My dream is to see them for a few shows in Europe.

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                      • #26
                        Thanks Snake...

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                        • #27
                          From Rammstein World:

                          A professional-quality live video is currently circulating on the Internet. It's Waidmanns Heil, filmed in Montreal and New York in 2010, and published by the director of these two concerts. Many fansites claim that this is proof that a live featuring the LIFAD tour will be released.

                          However, we do believe that the main concert featured in the DVD/Blu-ray will be Paris 2012. Early 2011, plans were to release a LIFAD tour concert. But as Rammstein went on road with the Made In Germany tour, they changed their mind, and decided to shoot Paris with a lot of filming equipment.

                          As a result, the LIFAD material will not be used, or only as bonus. This was confirmed by members of the band during aftershows.
                          Last edited by 2face; 05-28-2012, 08:43 AM.
                          Willkommen in der Dunkelheit
                          In der Dunkelheit

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                          • #28
                            And I was in Paris, FRONT ROW........ :-D
                            Willkommen in der Dunkelheit
                            In der Dunkelheit

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                            • #29
                              That would be great...

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                              • #30
                                ^That wouldn't be too great to me though ... I would really like a LIFAD-DVD, so I hope much material will be used from these shows on a next DVD. I'm probably the only one who even prefers a LIFAD-DVD above a MIG one (because the tour was way bigger, I liked the theme and the effects better [let's not forget MIG recycled a lot from the LIFAD tour] and the setlist was more original).
                                I would still look forward to a MIG DVD though, but not using all the LIFAD stuff would let me down a bit.
                                Dort wo der Horizont
                                Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                                Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                                Auf das du mich dort findest

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