Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: or, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:


If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.


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Till: Destroying the myths

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  • KatesterLizbrat
    While it's a little more personal information that I care to read about Till, I appreciate your effort and many references. When I first became interested in R+ I read the Wikipedia article just like so many have done. After watching the interviews from the DVDs and such, I found it hard to believe that all the info on Wikipedia could be true. Doing a little research with references on my own proved that 90% of what was written there was BS. Seems a large amount of "fans" like to believe whatever fits their ideal. If they want to believe Till hated his father and cuts himself on purpose on stage, they will. If they want to believe Du Hast means You Hate and I worship satan, they will. Some people enjoy the ignorance of being misinformed. I personally enjoy the bliss that comes from the smirk I wear when smug people are talking out of their butts.

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  • Iroto-chan
    Oh yes, they do, it's a sad truth. I've been fighting with it since a couple of weeks, because this kind of "fanfiction" I dare say, might be very hurtful to Till and his family. People don't even tend to listen to what Till himself is saying O.O They just keep munching on these false, stupid gossips. ( And yes, I suspect that some people are doing it on purpose).

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  • Maya
    Originally posted by Edelweiss View Post
    I haven't heard half those rumours. Poor Till !
    Yup, there are many, it seems Rammstein fans love gossip.

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  • Edelweiss
    I haven't heard half those rumours. Poor Till !

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  • Maya
    Originally posted by Iroto-chan View Post
    BTW! If you are interested, I also may post an article that Gitta Lindemann has written about her son, Till. It is called "Mein Sohn - der Frontmann von Rammstein , eine Liebeserklaerung" - "My son, the frontman of Rammstein, declaration of love" (I've translated it from German to English).
    I have read it in other languages, but I have been lazy to translate it. Please post it, I think it will fit in Other section.
    Last edited by Maya; 07-11-2012, 12:08 AM.

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  • Iroto-chan
    *Werner's death: "Werner died at the effects of the alcohol" we read in various sources. First of all.. Werner quit drinking after a very short time and he would muse about how he was glad to quit it once and for all, he sees a drunkard on the street and it creeps him out. Other folks nag him to have a cup of a New Year champaigne and when he refuses, they look at him as if he was some kind of a freak. (Oh, I know the pain) He would make some Gluhwein for his wife and the rest of the family but he himself wouldn't drink a cup. What was the real cause of Werner's death? We learn it from Till himself.
    He mentiones about his Dad's death in one of the interviews. Yes, I DO have a source for that. I've even translated it on my own from Polish to English. If you wish to check it out, I can provide the link, anytime! And here's the quote: "I witnessed the death of a person I loved very much. My Dad died of stomach cancer. When he was dying, my Mom and me would stay by his bedside". He dedicated his "Messer" poem book to his own Father and Gitta herself states in the interview that "she was very delighted to have learnt about that dedication". Yep, even in Wikipedia it says that Gitta and Till would stay by Werner's bedside till the very end. But what about the rest? The rest needs corretion, G*ddam*it! :[

    And now the thing about Till never visiting his father's grave. I have no idea where did it get from, one thing is for sure, Till wouldn't say a thing about it in the previously mentioned interview. And even if he didn't pay the visit to his Dad's grave. Maybe it was too much for him to bear? Maybe he had some kind of a psychological stoppage? My friend's Dad passed away three years ago and she loved him with all her heart, but she would never feel like paying visit to his grave, she keeps her Dad's memory in her heart and she feels fine like that. It depends from people, you know..Besides.. how can we be sure, that Till hasn't done it already after all these years?
    I thought I was going to DIE of rage!!! when I came across a short summary of Werner's book in Did that man even happen to read the publication?!!! Or did he throw it down to the Google translator and helped himself up with an automatically translated text?! Again the same s**t about "Till's dark past, abusive Father, wounded mentality".. Seriously for I second there I thought I was going to stop that guy's heart. DEMN!!!!! Writing a summary of the book you have no freakin' idea about?!!!! What planet do these folks you live on?! *facewall**facewall**facewall*

    *Mutter Song": "Both Till and Richard confirmed about the song relating to their tough relationships with their own mothers". WHAT THE FU....DGE?!!!!! Okay folks, some of you, that have already swept through my translation of "Mein Sohn, der Frontmann von Rammstein".... I think it already speaks for itself, doesn't it?
    Werner himself describes Till running up to his Mom and throwing her up in the air, big, joyfull grin plastered on his face. He mentiones about "beautifuly carved flower pot".. cherry wood beauty made by Till as a Christmas present for his Mom.
    And Till! The same interview I've already talked about. Here's the fragment: (everything translated by me)
    ...(...)..neither the title, nor the text have got anything to do with my own mother, or my colleague’s mothers.
    Q:You reportedly consulted the text of the song with your own Mother. Do you always use to test your new musical material on your parent?
    A:I just wanted to avoid all unnecessary misunderstandings and vague hints. So that my mother wouldn’t hold any grudge against me afterwards, you know, looking askance, wagging her finger at me, and asking: “What kind of pamphlet is this?!” Especially when given the fact, that “Mutter” song tells a rather sad story which has got no reference to our relationship in real life. My mom listened to it eagerly and she enjoyed it. So all things are settled between us.
    Q: You want me to say that your Mom herself is a Rammstein fan?
    A: She wasn’t one right from the start, that’s for sure. My Mom works in a radio, in a regional broadcasting station in north-west Germany. She’s the chef of the cultural redaction and you could likely see it coming, that one day, all her co-workers and acquaintances would nag her with all sorts of questions aka:”What the heck is going on?” They would say: “I saw your son in the TV, I read an article with your sweetheart” and so on. That would eventually make her feel proud. It made her totally change her attitude towards my musical activity, she started to look differently at my role in Rammstein, the way I express myself through the music.
    There! I think it explains everything away. These quotes come from TILL himself, not from some Wikipedia articles.
    I really felt the need to clear it up. And I would appreciate if people stopped spreading false myths and gossips about celebrities. Till doesn't deserve all this sh*t.
    That's how I would like to repay him.. for all he has done for me, my sweet Angel. Heck yeah, this is going to be my now motto from now on: "Destroy the Myths! Let the truth unleash!"
    Here's the list of the sources I've been relating to:

    *Werner Lindemann, Mike Oldfield im Schaukenstuhl - Notizen eines Vaters
    *Mike Oldfield Neuerdings - Radio Hoerspiel (from 2011) with Gitta Lindemann interview.
    *The March of Missunderstandings - Interview with Till Lindemann (from 2001) "Tylko Rock" Magasine.
    *Mein Sohn - der Frontmann von Rammstein - Declaration of Love* by Gitta Lindemann, Till Lindemann's Mother. (from 2008).

    If you are interested, I also may post an article that Gitta Lindemann has written about her son, Till. It is called "Mein Sohn - der Frontmann von Rammstein , eine Liebeserklaerung" - "My son, the frontman of Rammstein, declaration of love" (I've translated it from German to English).

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