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Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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Till: Destroying the myths

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Iroto-chan View Post
    It's also the incredible strenghth of character that impresses me. P.ex: when he got his knee ridden over by Flake on a segway back in 2005 (and yet continued to sing) or when he got a short attack of sickness before Ohne Dich song in Dusseldorf but still moved on.. not to mention those numerous scars he got because of a technic mishap O.o. But he keeps going. You can say he's giving the most of himself. And I also find it very endearing that he says the "let me see your hands" sequence from Ich Will in different languages depending on what country he performs at the time. No doubt he is a man with passion.
    What technical mishap? What happend (numerous scars)?
    Willkommen in der Dunkelheit
    In der Dunkelheit

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    • #32
      Around 15th of May (Vancouver gig) Till inflicted some serious, deep wounds on both arms and chest. The pics of the wounds leaked very fast and fans were dead worried about him - people started to bring up various speculations as to how he could get them. We learned from a fan, (who talked to the technical crew) that Till wanted to help them unload the equipment, something went wrong and hurt him (according to the crew, those metal Engel wings are to blame, and yes, it is plausible, since those metal-parts are sharp as h*ll, they probably slid and brushed against his body). Those scars can be also seen on the Suddeustche Zeitung Magazine cover.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Iroto-chan View Post
        Around 15th of May (Vancouver gig) Till inflicted some serious, deep wounds on both arms and chest. The pics of the wounds leaked very fast and fans were dead worried about him - people started to bring up various speculations as to how he could get them. We learned from a fan, (who talked to the technical crew) that Till wanted to help them unload the equipment, something went wrong and hurt him (according to the crew, those metal Engel wings are to blame, and yes, it is plausible, since those metal-parts are sharp as h*ll, they probably slid and brushed against his body). Those scars can be also seen on the Suddeustche Zeitung Magazine cover.
        Sorry to say this, but I don't believe that. I have seen older pics with similar cuts on his arms before the Vancouver gig.
        Willkommen in der Dunkelheit
        In der Dunkelheit

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        • #34
          ^Before the Canadian tour dates I never saw those, to be honest. On the Antwerp gig (last gig before their first pause in the MIG tour, last date before they crossed the Atlantic), his arms looked just fine.
          Dort wo der Horizont
          Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
          Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
          Auf das du mich dort findest

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          • #35
            2face, if you check up the Winnipeg gig clips (on youtube for example) take a close look - scars are nowhere to be seen. First time they appear is around Vancouver gig. If you're talking about those two, sharp cuts on Till's right arm, that's a totally different story. He's had them since long time ago.
            I'm talking about the new ones. Seven cuts on the right arm included.

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            • #36
              Wow. You guys don't miss anything! :P
              "Love is like a flower, even the most beautiful kind dies." -Till Lindemann

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Iroto-chan View Post
                2face, if you check up the Winnipeg gig clips (on youtube for example) take a close look - scars are nowhere to be seen. First time they appear is around Vancouver gig. If you're talking about those two, sharp cuts on Till's right arm, that's a totally different story. He's had them since long time ago.
                I'm talking about the new ones. Seven cuts on the right arm included.
                I know what cuts you are talking about, what I'm saying is that in older pics similar scars are visible on his arms BEFORE the incident/ scars you are talking about. And I don't believe it's from helping the crew unload any equipment. Do you really think he is anywhere near the arena when the crew is unpacking and setting up the stage? Doubtful..... Like the title of this thread...... A MYTH IMHO.....

                What I think is those cuts are self inflicted cuts.
                Last edited by 2face; 10-25-2012, 10:07 AM.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by 2face View Post
                  I know what cuts you are talking about, what I'm saying is that in older pics similar scars are visible on his arms BEFORE the incident/ scars you are talking about. And I don't believe it's from helping the crew unload any equipment. Do you really think he is anywhere near the arena when the crew is unpacking and setting up the stage? Doubtful..... Like the title of this thread...... A MYTH IMHO.....

                  What I think is those cuts are self inflicted cuts.
                  During the Lifad-tour Rammstein posted tons of pics on fb of them being around while the crew is still working on the stage (waiting for the sound check I guess). So yes, I believe they are near the stage while setting it up, I don't believe those pics are photoshopped or deformed or anything like that; I have nor reason to believe those pics are fake.

                  Self-inflicted? What makes you think that? What you say sounds more like a myth to me. It might be that he already had some scars, but isn't that only understandable when you're doing hundreds of gigs where you're obliged to rub yourself in with oils and cremes to prevent you from being hurt? That in all those hundreds of gigs it goes partially wrong sometimes is only to expect. Do you have any source or specific reason for thinking what you think?
                  Dort wo der Horizont
                  Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                  Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                  Auf das du mich dort findest

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
                    During the Lifad-tour Rammstein posted tons of pics on fb of them being around while the crew is still working on the stage (waiting for the sound check I guess). So yes, I believe they are near the stage while setting it up, I don't believe those pics are photoshopped or deformed or anything like that; I have nor reason to believe those pics are fake.

                    Self-inflicted? What makes you think that? What you say sounds more like a myth to me. It might be that he already had some scars, but isn't that only understandable when you're doing hundreds of gigs where you're obliged to rub yourself in with oils and cremes to prevent you from being hurt? That in all those hundreds of gigs it goes partially wrong sometimes is only to expect. Do you have any source or specific reason for thinking what you think?
                    Maybe being around while final setup of the stage is completed.....MAYBE. We have been in the arenas (M.I.G.) while final setup is been completed (on numerous occasions) and not once have I seen any of the members around the stage.

                    Those cuts I also think are not photo shopped. I'm not saying that they are for sure self inflicted, what I am saying is that "I THINK THAT THEY ARE".

                    If the cuts “ARE” from an accident with the "Engel" wings, then that is what happened and I am wrong to think that they were self inflicted.

                    I have asked a friend who is close to Till if he knew what happened, but unfortunately he doesn’t know (or maybe doesn’t want to tell me). But I will fish some more.

                    Not looking for a argument or anything, I'm entitled to my opinion. Again if I'm wrong thinking that they are self inflicted, I apologise for thinking and saying it.
                    Willkommen in der Dunkelheit
                    In der Dunkelheit

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                    • #40
                      ^Thank you for coming along and clearing this up, Waidmann

                      As a matter of fact, 2face, all this talk about Till being a cutter has also rumbled through various forums but again, it's more what fans want to believe to be true, without reffering to reliable sources - everyone has its own fantasies, some people to dangerous extent. For your information - I've showed a couple of pics with those brand new wounds to my pal who is a doctor. And here's what he said: " Judging by irregular curves at the edges of the cuts, the wounds appear to be the work of a metal or glass". Metal - that would fit, by all means, since Engel wings are made from metal. Another proof - during Ohne Dich song (Vancouver) Till's scars are BLEEDING. Autenthically bleeding.
                      EDIT: Seems like your post has jumped before mine. It's okay. No one is looking for an argument. Just wanted to make some things clear and provide information/ sources I know.
                      Last edited by Iroto-chan; 10-25-2012, 11:44 AM.

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                      • #41
                        That is exactly it, everything that is being said is only speculation. Even what you and your pal doctor might think.

                        That is what I THINK (my opion). True or not....... I think he is a cutter. Like I said if I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I apologise for thinking and saying it
                        Willkommen in der Dunkelheit
                        In der Dunkelheit

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Iroto-chan View Post
                          ^Thank you for coming along and clearing this up, Waidmann

                          As a matter of fact, 2face, all this talk about Till being a cutter has also rumbled through various forums but again, it's more what fans want to believe to be true, without reffering to reliable sources - everyone has its own fantasies, some people to dangerous extent. For your information - I've showed a couple of pics with those brand new wounds to my pal who is a doctor. And here's what he said: " Judging by irregular curves at the edges of the cuts, the wounds appear to be the work of a metal or glass". Metal - that would fit, by all means, since Engel wings are made from metal. Another proof - during Ohne Dich song (Vancouver) Till's scars are BLEEDING. Autenthically bleeding.
                          EDIT: Seems like your post has jumped before mine. It's okay. No one is looking for an argument. Just wanted to make some things clear and provide information/ sources I know.
                          No worries Iroto-chan
                          Willkommen in der Dunkelheit
                          In der Dunkelheit

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by 2face View Post
                            That is what I THINK (my opion). True or not....... I think he is a cutter. Like I said if I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I apologise for thinking and saying it
                            There's no need to apologize, of course, you are free to think and say it.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Maya View Post
                              There's no need to apologize, of course, you are free to think and say it.
                              Thank you Maya
                              Willkommen in der Dunkelheit
                              In der Dunkelheit

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                              • #45
                                Not sure about getting involved in this conversation but i have to be honest and say that i have always wondered about Till`s scars, but then it could be an occupational hazzard, after all he does do a very dangerous job !! I like to think that it is not self inflicted but then who really knows for sure.
                                The saying is "You dont know what you have got till its gone" the truth is "You know what you had, you just did not know you would lose it" !!

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