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FORUM RULES ABOUT WEB-BASED LINKS TO MUSIC AND VIDEO'S

Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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Till: Destroying the myths

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  • Fellfrosch
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    Just a thought...Do you think that there is a metaphor in Engel having to do with fame and success? The angels (elevated ones) love humans but they can't touch them. But they can't go to heaven either (true happiness in not having to depend on others for your joy). I guess another way of explaining it would be that they get joy from making us fans happy and trying to connect with us, but they are put so high up on a pedestal that people gossip and make up the mythology, so they are never really appreciated as themselves. They are just kinda stuck there in the middle....i don't know, make fun if you want but that's my two cents for today. :P

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  • Iroto-chan
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    Paperdaysz, you're right! There is something about it indeed, <3 :hug: The very thought about his close relation with his Mom makes me feel warm inside. And the way he took care of his Granny is just... I had tears in my eyes.

    And Waidmann, by all means. I guess people always loved makings things up, putting some more "drama" in it, so it "sells" better. Bet some of them felt "dissapointed" when discovering true facts, because it doesn't fit their fantasies anymore.

    I also wonder what Till's facial expression was when he used to read this gossiptrash.

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  • paperdaysz
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    i think the fact that Till is the opposite of the way he is on stage, makes him more interesting, some what hotter.
    nothing more hotter than a bad boy who cares for their fam or love ones.
    And when i read that article by Gitta Lindemann, it changes my point of view about him. Made me respect him even more.
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  • Waidmann
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    ^People just can't stand that in reality things turned out way less spectacular than it could have. All the ingredients were present to make Till a tormented and maybe agressive, violent, father-hating rebel and that sounds so interesting people just want to believe it.

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  • Iroto-chan
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    Just came across a certain blog (Polish one) when a girl gives some short info about Till in general. She seems to be the one of the few, who took some "trouble" to look up those valid sources and she wrote there about Till's grief after his Dad's death. Then a german speaking dude, dunno whether it was a male or female, chimed in and told her to change the text bc "Till hated his Dad and felt very relieved after he was gone" Just... (bangs her head against the desk). You're right guys. No matter how hard I try, there will be STILL some stubborn individuals who turn a blind eye on facts and live on with their fantasies. I cannot help it, it's just making me.. sad. But I quickly interferred and somehow told him/her off and told the author of the text to leave it as it is.
    Already mentioned about it bf: People like to intermingle facts with their own fantasies, it could also be some psychological (Freud?) stuff: "My father was a total a***, Till must have suffered exactly the same". And they want to paint him as a tragical hero, who detested his parent and suffered terrible injustice at his hands. Oh well . Keep dreaming in your little dream word, then

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  • Waidmann
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    No problem, 2face, just wanted to know if you had arguments. I personally give people more the benefit of doubt, especially when those people are already constantly being attacked for the wrong and untrue reasons (like Till having problems with his father, Till being a Nazist, Till being every person he sings about etc.). I never want to pick a fight and I'll never judge persons, only comments !
    Last edited by Waidmann; 10-31-2012, 12:16 PM.

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  • Iroto-chan
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    I have to admit those scars really creeped me out, the first time I saw them. I prayed they weren't auntenthic. But unfortunately they were. I just hope that none of such thing happens again in the future I want him to stay in health!

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  • RICHARDS BIGGEST FAN
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    Not sure about getting involved in this conversation but i have to be honest and say that i have always wondered about Till`s scars, but then it could be an occupational hazzard, after all he does do a very dangerous job !! I like to think that it is not self inflicted but then who really knows for sure.

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  • 2face
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    Originally posted by Maya View Post
    There's no need to apologize, of course, you are free to think and say it.
    Thank you Maya

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  • Maya
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    Originally posted by 2face View Post
    That is what I THINK (my opion). True or not....... I think he is a cutter. Like I said if I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I apologise for thinking and saying it
    There's no need to apologize, of course, you are free to think and say it.

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  • 2face
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    Originally posted by Iroto-chan View Post
    ^Thank you for coming along and clearing this up, Waidmann

    As a matter of fact, 2face, all this talk about Till being a cutter has also rumbled through various forums but again, it's more what fans want to believe to be true, without reffering to reliable sources - everyone has its own fantasies, some people to dangerous extent. For your information - I've showed a couple of pics with those brand new wounds to my pal who is a doctor. And here's what he said: " Judging by irregular curves at the edges of the cuts, the wounds appear to be the work of a metal or glass". Metal - that would fit, by all means, since Engel wings are made from metal. Another proof - during Ohne Dich song (Vancouver) Till's scars are BLEEDING. Autenthically bleeding.
    EDIT: Seems like your post has jumped before mine. It's okay. No one is looking for an argument. Just wanted to make some things clear and provide information/ sources I know.
    No worries Iroto-chan

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  • 2face
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    That is exactly it, everything that is being said is only speculation. Even what you and your pal doctor might think.

    That is what I THINK (my opion). True or not....... I think he is a cutter. Like I said if I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I apologise for thinking and saying it

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  • Iroto-chan
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    ^Thank you for coming along and clearing this up, Waidmann

    As a matter of fact, 2face, all this talk about Till being a cutter has also rumbled through various forums but again, it's more what fans want to believe to be true, without reffering to reliable sources - everyone has its own fantasies, some people to dangerous extent. For your information - I've showed a couple of pics with those brand new wounds to my pal who is a doctor. And here's what he said: " Judging by irregular curves at the edges of the cuts, the wounds appear to be the work of a metal or glass". Metal - that would fit, by all means, since Engel wings are made from metal. Another proof - during Ohne Dich song (Vancouver) Till's scars are BLEEDING. Autenthically bleeding.
    EDIT: Seems like your post has jumped before mine. It's okay. No one is looking for an argument. Just wanted to make some things clear and provide information/ sources I know.
    Last edited by Iroto-chan; 10-25-2012, 11:44 AM.

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  • 2face
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    Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
    During the Lifad-tour Rammstein posted tons of pics on fb of them being around while the crew is still working on the stage (waiting for the sound check I guess). So yes, I believe they are near the stage while setting it up, I don't believe those pics are photoshopped or deformed or anything like that; I have nor reason to believe those pics are fake.

    Self-inflicted? What makes you think that? What you say sounds more like a myth to me. It might be that he already had some scars, but isn't that only understandable when you're doing hundreds of gigs where you're obliged to rub yourself in with oils and cremes to prevent you from being hurt? That in all those hundreds of gigs it goes partially wrong sometimes is only to expect. Do you have any source or specific reason for thinking what you think?
    Maybe being around while final setup of the stage is completed.....MAYBE. We have been in the arenas (M.I.G.) while final setup is been completed (on numerous occasions) and not once have I seen any of the members around the stage.

    Those cuts I also think are not photo shopped. I'm not saying that they are for sure self inflicted, what I am saying is that "I THINK THAT THEY ARE".

    If the cuts “ARE” from an accident with the "Engel" wings, then that is what happened and I am wrong to think that they were self inflicted.

    I have asked a friend who is close to Till if he knew what happened, but unfortunately he doesn’t know (or maybe doesn’t want to tell me). But I will fish some more.

    Not looking for a argument or anything, I'm entitled to my opinion. Again if I'm wrong thinking that they are self inflicted, I apologise for thinking and saying it.

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  • Waidmann
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    Originally posted by 2face View Post
    I know what cuts you are talking about, what I'm saying is that in older pics similar scars are visible on his arms BEFORE the incident/ scars you are talking about. And I don't believe it's from helping the crew unload any equipment. Do you really think he is anywhere near the arena when the crew is unpacking and setting up the stage? Doubtful..... Like the title of this thread...... A MYTH IMHO.....

    What I think is those cuts are self inflicted cuts.
    During the Lifad-tour Rammstein posted tons of pics on fb of them being around while the crew is still working on the stage (waiting for the sound check I guess). So yes, I believe they are near the stage while setting it up, I don't believe those pics are photoshopped or deformed or anything like that; I have nor reason to believe those pics are fake.

    Self-inflicted? What makes you think that? What you say sounds more like a myth to me. It might be that he already had some scars, but isn't that only understandable when you're doing hundreds of gigs where you're obliged to rub yourself in with oils and cremes to prevent you from being hurt? That in all those hundreds of gigs it goes partially wrong sometimes is only to expect. Do you have any source or specific reason for thinking what you think?

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