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Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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  • #16
    Aww, 527 thank you! It means so much to me! I hope that by writing it I could somehow repay Till for what he has done for me. And I agree with everything you just said, Fellfrosch (Till taking a rest and so on).About that sadness and melancholic stuff: Don't laugh at me guys, but Mutter song and Zerstoeren song (the last part, when he sings in his delicate voice about that boy being abandonded by his girlfriend) they changed my soul and made me draw my attention towards miserable, lonely people, people who really need love. Really, something broke in me into pieces when I heard them ;(. And I love Till. He is like a toast. Tough on the outside, soft on the inside. Onstage - blood stained butcher boy - offstage - oh, numerous pics (and the one with Melanie) speak for themselves.
    As for the lies, yes, that's HORRIBLE. And altough now the future of SonneN's project is quite uncertain (but I keep my fingers crossed for you, SonneN!) I'm really glad to see that lots of people have already made known themselves with some fragments of the book, which provides real information. not "Wikiipedia" or "made-this-all-up" information. These stupid gossips were driving me off the deep end, that's why I thought it was the highest time to do something about it.

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    • #17
      I hope Till knows there are good people at bat for him like you Iroto. Maybe he seems withdrawn because he knows people jump to conclusions about him before he even has a chance to set things straight. Everyone thinks his songs are autobiographical, like Mutter for example. I think I remember reading somewhere that Mutter was more true for Richard than Till. I've read the few chapters by Werner that were translated, I really hope someday I can read the rest. Although I would really like to someday learn German fluently so that I can appreciate these things in their truest form. So much is lost in translation in usual contexts, but with Till his words have double meanings and metaphors that would especially be overlooked. I have read the translations also for Messer. Does anyone know if the book was specified as autobiographical? Or did he leave it open to interpretation?
      "Love is like a flower, even the most beautiful kind dies." -Till Lindemann

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      • #18
        It's always risky to judge people's minds or feelings based upon what they produce. But the noticable thing indeed is that the melanchloy of many of his songs (here I mainly refer to the album Rosenrot which was practically written entirely by Till) seems to fit with the man we see: someone who doesn't smile too much, who lives as a secluded loner somewhere in the nature. Also in public he seems very quiet and shy (until he hits the stage that is).

        On topic: nice initiative, Iroto-chan! I'm glad you found legit arguments to help these lies out of the world (intsead of many people who are just blinded by their feelings about the band, positive or negative).
        Dort wo der Horizont
        Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
        Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
        Auf das du mich dort findest

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        • #19
          @Waidmann: Thank you very much! I've been gearing up to write this article, because I was really upset with what I used to read from various sites. When someone's fantasy starts to intermingle with the facts it becomes dangerous. And "a lie that keeps being repeated 1000 times, eventually becomes truth".
          @Fellfrosch: Oh you're too kind! (blush) :* I really appreciate! As for the Mutter song, right, someone (on Wikipedia? yeaaah>.<)wrote that the song relates to Till's and Richard's unhappy relationships with their mothers, which is totall B.S. Well, I do know that Richard's relationship with his Mom wasn't honey and roses but Till is very close to his own mother. Not only did Werner mention about it in his book, but Till himself (he invited his Mom to listen to this song and she enjoyed it. They both said, the song didn't relate to their private relations at all). Also, Gitta wrote a beautiful article about Till, which I've also translated from Germand to English. And yet! some people still seem to believe in what they want to believe. Duh...:/ Notin we can do about it. As for the Messer, Fellfrosch - I think I've read somewhere that Till didn't want his fans to consider it too autobiographical, I mean.. he's writing about the world/ life in general. The same with other songs, Rammstein songs. He'd rather leave it to open interpretation. Will try to dig it up.

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          • #20
            I would very much like to read your translation of Gitta's article. Is there a link or something? Also Messer is like $200 or something crazy over here. Does anyone know a cheaper way to get it? I know it's everywhere online but I still want a real copy. I love that new book smell!
            "Love is like a flower, even the most beautiful kind dies." -Till Lindemann

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            • #21
              The link: http://affenknecht.com/forum/showthr...itta-Lindemann

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              • #22
                Thanks! Im on it! Lol
                "Love is like a flower, even the most beautiful kind dies." -Till Lindemann

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Fellfrosch View Post
                  I agree. He may have all the money and adoration one could ever hope for, but his eyes count for a lot in my book. I know this probably sounds really corny and stupid, but I think maybe some people just have melancholy hardwired into them, I know I do. Im not saying that I can't be happy at times, but I can always feel it creeping up on me. I think Till is the same way, and I love him for it. I would miss him dearly, but i wish sometimes he would retire. He has given us so much already, and he has said already that he loves travel and adventure. I think he would be happier if he didn't have to work on albums and tour and things....Sigh...I wish i could sit with him on a secluded dock somewhere and have some beers.
                  Sometimes, I think Till does it all for us fans, like you said. Like very often he's tired of writing new material and playing the same songs over again, but that we kind of.. drive him to continue. Gotta love him for that.

                  Anyways.. the way his mother speaks about Till. He really seems like you know, one of the best persons to have ever lived. Very loving. Should be a lovely guy to be friends with.

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                  • #24
                    ^The song Haifisch seems to confirm those thoughts in some way. They won't stop, and the big thankfull audience plays a significant role in that. But if you're saying Till is only doing it for the fans, I think it's not entirely correct. I think he quite enjoys being on stage, which I witnessed 2 years ago on the festival (the crowd was louder than expected and even Till couldn't hide his smile (!!!) for some moments). He also seems very much passionated by the more quiet songs. This could of course all be acting, but I don't you can keep that up for years if it's "just" for the fans.
                    And tired of making new material is very questionable for me too. When it comes to writing it seems more like Till is an inexhaustble source (which we know since Hof told us about his hundreds of poems).
                    Dort wo der Horizont
                    Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                    Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                    Auf das du mich dort findest

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Waidmann View Post
                      ^The song Haifisch seems to confirm those thoughts in some way. They won't stop, and the big thankfull audience plays a significant role in that. But if you're saying Till is only doing it for the fans, I think it's not entirely correct. I think he quite enjoys being on stage, which I witnessed 2 years ago on the festival (the crowd was louder than expected and even Till couldn't hide his smile (!!!) for some moments). He also seems very much passionated by the more quiet songs. This could of course all be acting, but I don't you can keep that up for years if it's "just" for the fans.
                      And tired of making new material is very questionable for me too. When it comes to writing it seems more like Till is an inexhaustble source (which we know since Hof told us about his hundreds of poems).

                      Yeah I kinda meant what you said, but you worded it better. :P

                      With tired of writing I mean more like, not feeling the need to go in the studio all the time. But I think he's the kind of person that's always busy writing lyrics and poems (he's partly a poet after all). And with doing it for the fans I indeed meant that we just keep him fueled. If no one would recognize his work at all, I know I wouldn't be motivated to go on.

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                      • #26
                        It's also the incredible strenghth of character that impresses me. P.ex: when he got his knee ridden over by Flake on a segway back in 2005 (and yet continued to sing) or when he got a short attack of sickness before Ohne Dich song in Dusseldorf but still moved on.. not to mention those numerous scars he got because of a technic mishap O.o. But he keeps going. You can say he's giving the most of himself. And I also find it very endearing that he says the "let me see your hands" sequence from Ich Will in different languages depending on what country he performs at the time. No doubt he is a man with passion.

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                        • #27
                          ^That are indeed some sings of great devotion. I can't imagine singers like Axl Rose facing those problems without walking of stage.
                          Dort wo der Horizont
                          Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                          Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                          Auf das du mich dort findest

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Iroto-chan View Post
                            It's also the incredible strenghth of character that impresses me. P.ex: when he got his knee ridden over by Flake on a segway back in 2005 (and yet continued to sing) or when he got a short attack of sickness before Ohne Dich song in Dusseldorf but still moved on.. not to mention those numerous scars he got because of a technic mishap O.o. But he keeps going. You can say he's giving the most of himself. And I also find it very endearing that he says the "let me see your hands" sequence from Ich Will in different languages depending on what country he performs at the time. No doubt he is a man with passion.
                            Or hits his head with a fucking microphone, just to deliver a damn awesome show.

                            @Waidmann yeah, but Axl is a dick though. Refusing to either leave or enter the stage, coming late, shit like that.

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                            • #29
                              @Benzin. He is indeed a dick.

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                              • #30
                                ^He's waaaay better now, but still has his principles (in a way I admire that, rather than some rock stars who turn out to be push-overs). It's been a long time since he was late (due to his own behaviour that is) or made problems on stage without much to defend it. if only he did before...
                                Dort wo der Horizont
                                Sich mit dem Meer verbindet
                                Dort wollt' ich auf dich warten
                                Auf das du mich dort findest

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