Europe 2019 Stadium tour - Spoiler thread

[Waidmann]

^Hahaha, I actually didn't notice in any videos that those dancers were them

Great you loved them! I'm going to miss them in July in Brussels, but hope I can gain tickets for the Ostend sow next year.

[The Rose]

I absolutely enjoyed the show. I like they tried out some different things, had they only put on more and more pyro (and there were plenty) some would have argued they only did the same-same, there's just no pleasing some people. It was fun to se Paul, Schneider, Ollie and Flake as dancers, but I could have lived without that and RZK's remix of Deutschland, for me that was the only 'bad' thing, but it was short. And had they not included Pussy I wouldn't have missed it, but it's a crowd-pleaser. I think they could have used the B-stage for a little longer, but like that five members took the boats back to the main-stage.

So overall: YES I HAD A GREAT TIME and the people around me had as well.

[Maya]

Hahahahahaha your reality is the only one that matters, for me Barcelona’s was a great show and I loved it, we are fans not experts, so who cares?

Enjoy the shows!!!

[Plethora]

Welp, the strangest thing happened last night. I went to the show in Paris, and despite the incessant complaining here about how the tour sucks, I had a blast. No less of an enjoyable time as I've had the other times that I've seen them. Really a great time and a great show.

So now my reality is torn. On the one hand, I know what I saw and heard last night - and how great it was. But on the other hand....so many self-annointed concert experts here are righteously displeased. I mean, one dude even informed us that his mom said this tour is worse than the others. And if you can't trust some guy's mom on the interest to speak to the quality of a Rammstein concert, who can you trust?

Sigh. Such confusing times we live in..

[InstantMix]

Strange... On his website he does not list the 2019-tour on his resume (http://www.leroybennett.com/his-resume/).

Maybe they hired him, but rejected his design? Or maybe he isn't responsible for the full lighting production. Anyway, thanks for the info Waidmann, I was unaware of this interview,

As I said before, the company handling the design of this show is Woodroffe Bassett design, they've got a good catalogue but unfortunately I just don't think their design ideas really work that well with Rammstein who already have quite an established feel. Completely agree that the lack of LeRoy is a part of why the lighting feels off and everything's a bit static, but that's not to say that LeRoy and only LeRoy can pull it off. I just don't think WBD hit the mark, which is a shame as it would be interesting to see how another bunch of designers tackle Rammstein.

[Chrisss Nofff]

^Are you sure he's not involved at all? In Rolling Stone magazine in september 2018 he said the following:

"For Rammstein, I’m in the process of designing a stadium show for next year that is outdoors, so the fire will be a lot bigger, and even in the audience."

Strange... On his website he does not list the 2019-tour on his resume (http://www.leroybennett.com/his-resume/).

Maybe they hired him, but rejected his design? Or maybe he isn't responsible for the full lighting production. Anyway, thanks for the info Waidmann, I was unaware of this interview,

[Waidmann]

^Are you sure he's not involved at all? In Rolling Stone magazine in september 2018 he said the following:

"For Rammstein, I’m in the process of designing a stadium show for next year that is outdoors, so the fire will be a lot bigger, and even in the audience."

[Chrisss Nofff]

I haven't seen the show for real (until July 6th) but I really think the lighting still needs work from videos I've seen. Especially the first few songs. The colour for those first few songs all seem white. No variation. I think it's because for a lot of shows it's still day time during that point of the show and white light is easier to see in daylight.

I love the stage design.. except the lighting (again). I think it would have been perfect if the sides had more of an industrial feel rather than a grid of lights. It doesn't look very Rammstein but the tower is pretty perfect.

Yeah, from what I have seen the lighting show is indeed somewhat underwhelming. That being said, the lighting show does get changed constantley throughout the tour.

I think the main problem with this tour when it comes to atmosphere and lighting, comes from the fact that this is the first tour since the Ahoi-tour, were Leroy Benett is not involved in designing the stage and lighting show. He is probably the most prestigous stage designer working right now, and Rammstein owes him a lot.

Why Bennett did not work on this tour is a mystery. He even said that Rammstein was one of his personal favorites. I guess it might be him taking on less projects as he gets older, or maybe he is not that interested in a outdoor stadium show.

Either way, I hope the reason for not hiring him isn't something stupid like his hiring costs.

[Ramm91]

I haven't seen the show for real (until July 6th) but I really think the lighting still needs work from videos I've seen. Especially the first few songs. The colour for those first few songs all seem white. No variation. I think it's because for a lot of shows it's still day time during that point of the show and white light is easier to see in daylight.

I love the stage design.. except the lighting (again). I think it would have been perfect if the sides had more of an industrial feel rather than a grid of lights. It doesn't look very Rammstein but the tower is pretty perfect.

[Snake]

From what I've seen of the stage show so far I'm kind of disappointed. As soon as my MK ticket arrives I'm selling it. Great album, shit tour.

Don't.

I was at the second Gelsenkirchen date, and i hate to say it but I was a little disappointed afterwards. The piano girls as the opening act and the slow opener result in a "cool" audience when the show really starts. However, when the pressure is built up they start playing slower songs again. There's no place in the setlist for the piano girls, was ich liebe, diamant, engel (piano) and ohne dich. And don't get me started on the remix, that was the point my mother turned to me (we went to LIFAD and MiG together) and said "wow, they used to be much better". The album and the stage had lots of potential and in some songs you can see that, but more often than not you can feel that this is a tour of compromises.

A-fucking-men.

[Maya]

München!
Photos:Jens Koch Fotgrafie

[MonsieurSander]

I was at the second Gelsenkirchen date, and i hate to say it but I was a little disappointed afterwards. The piano girls as the opening act and the slow opener result in a "cool" audience when the show really starts. However, when the pressure is built up they start playing slower songs again. There's no place in the setlist for the piano girls, was ich liebe, diamant, engel (piano) and ohne dich. And don't get me started on the remix, that was the point my mother turned to me (we went to LIFAD and MiG together) and said "wow, they used to be much better". The album and the stage had lots of potential and in some songs you can see that, but more often than not you can feel that this is a tour of compromises.

[Chrisss Nofff]

I agree that it's a great set list and I have no problem with 'Was ich Liebe' as the opening song because Reise Reise wasn't exactly speed metal but it fit so well. My real problem is with the stage show itself. We've been used to drama, theatre and FIRE on previous tours, and now we are left with lighting effects as the main feature of the show. I had hoped for more.

Once the actual tour started, I tried staying away from some spoilers. I did not want to know every detail about the tour. So I won't make any big comments about this live show before I see them in Berlin in two weeks.

The setlist does indeed look awesome, although I am not sure about the order of the songs. They actually still keep changing minor details here and there, so who knows how the show will be when I see them.


The only big complaint I have in advance, is that according to some spoiler-free reviews I have read, the IMAC screen in the middle of the stage only shows live-footage of the band for 20% of the concert. Most of the time it's just some JPEG's of the Rammstein logo. This is honestly one of these moments I really don't know what the fuck the band is thinking. They are playing at venues that have a capacity for 80 000 spectators like in Berlin or Moscow. The idea that people way back can't see anything the band is doing, despite the fact that there is a screen and a camera-crew, is just mind-blowing.

Some have cited the "no screen" policy the band had in the past, because Rammstein might be the only big band at this point that doesn't have screens all over their stage. But actually during their North-American concerts and the Prague concert in 2017, the band used their own IMAC screens the entire show. Those venues were much smaller then what the band is playing this year.

They might change this for the bigger shows of this tour, since it appears the camera crew is actually recording the band during the entire show. I think that means we could get some live-videos on Youtube throughout the tour.

[Maya]

There is Fire too, even not being on first row it's really hot

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I loved the Guest artists too, there are things I would remove but I loved the show, I hope they'll come back next year again.

[Art in Heaven]

I agree that it's a great set list and I have no problem with 'Was ich Liebe' as the opening song because Reise Reise wasn't exactly speed metal but it fit so well. My real problem is with the stage show itself. We've been used to drama, theatre and FIRE on previous tours, and now we are left with lighting effects as the main feature of the show. I had hoped for more.