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FORUM RULES ABOUT WEB-BASED LINKS TO MUSIC AND VIDEO'S

Based on latest discussions on this forum, and studiing copyright laws, it is necessary to state out new forum mandatory rules, effective immediately, so, here we are.

LINKS TO MUSIC & VIDEOS: what is legal/what is not.
NEW RULES in the forum state:

From now on in our forum users shal NOT POST TOPICS THAT containin the following :
• Requests for or links to MP3s, music videos, or other files of questionable legality
• Bootlegs

So, please do not POST A LINK TO music or videos which does not directly originate from an officially legal site.

An OFFICIALLY LEGAL SITE is: rammstein.com or rammstein.de, universal music, a legitimate music site like MTV or VIVA. The links must be direct and linked only to the approved site. Any links which have copied and transferred the music or videos from an official legal site to ANYWHERE else are NOT OFFICIAL.

• Do not ASK FOR A LINK to music or videos. If there is a legal site for either listening or viewing, xTERNAL will provide the information in the NEWS section of www.RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE.com.

WHAT YOU CAN DO in the forums: You can DISCUSS a new song or a new video.

WHAT YOU CANNOT DO in the forums: provide illegal links or ask for links, give directions of any kind as to where something might be found (examples: file-sharing, other fansites, etc.). Screen caps will be allowed (within reason) AFTER a video has been made available through an OFFICIAL LEGAL LINK. Fan remixes of songs will be allowed (within reason) after the song has been officially released.

The above restrictions are necessary not because we are being “damn babies” or “. The reason is simply that RAMMSTEIN-EUROPE has made the decision to not be a facilitator of illegal activities involving copyrighted material. The reason for that is also clear. Rammstein’s Management has shown aggressive behaviour in combating copyright infringement.

Anyone who violates the spirit of the aforementioned expansion/explanation of what the RULES mean here as applied to music and videos (and this also includes the "making of videos") will meet up with one of the following consequences:

POST BLOCKED, LINK ERASED AND WORSE.... BANNED IF NECESSARY.

If you have ANY questions about what may or may not be acceptable here, you can always PM a Moderator and ask first before posting something that might get you in trouble here.

•any links to www.youtube.com (or other sharing sites of a similar nature)are generally not allowed.
While some videos like fan made items or spoof animations are allowed, we do not allow linking to youtube. Oftentimes there is/are illegal videos of Rammstein performances to the side of the linked videos. Actual Rammstein Videos which are very illegal to be hosted by that site - therefore we cannot allow links to youtube to be allowed.

So, links to youtube are now allowed - ONLY IF it is a fanmade video by you, and does not contain bootleg footage or footage of live performances or released performances. Stills from photos found on the net are OK. A montage is OK. Clips of released footage are NOT OK.

Please try to understand that sometimes while we may allow a certain individuals fanmade videos, and deny another persons it is usually because the content in it could get the forums in trouble.

Also if some individuals post their fanmade video and it turns out to be bootleg footage that they filmed themselves at a concert and consider that "fanmade" - then we will have to reverse the ruling on allowing fanmade videos PERIOD!

Here is an update on what is considered "fanmade".
Fanmade is fanmade. You did it yourself. Like cut and paste. You creatd everything yourself. No footage filmed by someone else no clips. Still images are OK.
For example:
If you go out and find 6 banana slugs in the yard, dress them up in LAB outfits, and put the skinniest one in a paper boat and play the music to SEEMANN on a kazoo. That is fanmade.

If you have a coverband and you do your own video or you have footage of YOUR band's performance. That is fanmade.

If you have images that you sketched of how you think the video for a song should have been and you put it to music - I think we can allow that.

Use your creativity.

IF YOU SEE VIOLATION OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, REPORT IT BY USING THE EXCLAMATION MARK IN THE TOP RIGHT CORNER OF RELEVANT POST.


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  • #16
    That's true what you said Snake! Front row definitely has its own risks. Actually I have some experience about that myself too.. I was at this big three-day-long music festival Provinssirock two weeks ago, and on the third day me and my friends queued from the early morning because we wanted to see Volbeat & System of a Down from the front row. (For me Volbeat is my second favorite band, so another reason for the queuing.) We made it to the front row, and I felt good until SOAD started to play. First 30 minutes of the gig were absolutely awesome, but after that........ not. I felt like my ribs would break any second and I couldn't breathe properly. D: Well I had 30 000 people behind me so the pressure was huge.

    As long as the people act like humans front row is a good place to be in my opinion. From a further distance you can see the gigs amazingly too.

    Vbarrett, I don't have any particular tips for you.. just the usual ones - queue for a good while if you want to make sure you'll make it to the front row. And when the gates/doors open, run like crazy. : D I've always done that and seems that it has worked.
    ''Seitdem ich Guitar Rig 3 benutze, fühlt sich mein Haar viel voller an!'' - Paul Landers

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    • #17
      Abendwind - I just got turned on to Volbeat - saw them on the Revolver Awards show on VH1. Really like their song, Healing Subconsciously. They are great - I was watching the show because Rammstein won the Best Live Show award - but they were not shown on VH1 - which totally sucked. They left out the best.

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      • #18
        I have seen Rammstein only once. It was on LIFAD- summer festival tour, and they were in Provinssirock. I travelled first in 9 hours to Seinäjoki, I didn't sleep at all (clock was 4 am on Sunday morning when I was in Sjoki with my friend), and I was pretty sleepy whole day. So I waited 17hours only Rammstein. I was at the first row and front of Richard. And god damn it, I can't scream like a little girl but when the German flag dropped down and I saw Richard, oh my god, I haven't ever _EVER_ screamed so loud. Never. And first of all I guess I fainted for few second during Rammlied... Gig was awesome, it was pure love. It was pure Rammstein, then I thought my life was complete. For real! After the gig I really thought that my life stopped :'D It was weird feeling, but needed to handle. During the gig I almos drowned to a water pint, I tried to drink from it so I looked "cool" but I failed so badly that Richard watched me and LAUGHED AT ME. Not sorry for that, he looked so pissed of on the first songs so... And during Sonne, tralalalaaa I cried like a baby, it was just awesome and I lost my hair during it... It all was worth it. But they didn't play Engel. I only wanted to see those wings Till was pretty mad because they couldn't play it... Thanks to staff in Provinssirock.

        And two days later I was at hospital because I broke (during Rammstein) my already broken knee and my already bad back was f**ked up ... And I needed to work with them But all of this was worth it. Awake over 35hours and everything...

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        • #19
          ^I think it's safe to say you're pretty dedicated to the band!!
          DENN DU BIST, WAS DU ISST.

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          • #20
            I'm starting to think that I should bring body armor for the Birmigham gig.
            "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

            - Raymond M. Smullyan

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            • #21
              ^Hell yeah I am On next February (when they come to Finland) I need at first to travel 14 hours to Helsinki (ah train<3 I don't know why I'm not flying...) and hell yeah I'm going to be there on first row. And live in the moment. Rammstein means to me more than I could actually never expect O.o

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              • #22
                ^body armour....that may be a good idea.

                sorry to be off-topic but the two new forums in the affenknecht section don't open up on my computer. one of them is about the possible bug so just wondering if there's any connection? probably not seen as my pc is a piece of crap that is tempermental as hell but still....
                DENN DU BIST, WAS DU ISST.

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                • #23
                  I saw them live for the first time last May, in Tacoma. I had bought two floor tickets so my brother could fly down and see em too. He's not much for the crowds so he was able to get some great pics from the periphery, but I'm all about front and center. It was a massive crush of humanity, I thought I was going to pass out at some point from the combination of heat from both bodies and flamethrowers. In my experience of live concerts I would rank it a close 2nd place behind Amon Amarth (more a fan of death metal than industrial). INCREDIBLE experience, I hope to see them in Europe soon.
                  It's widely accepted that while dreaming, the subconscious is bringing forth and examining various thoughts from throughout the day. I disagree; I believe that the id is manipulating the subconscious in order to see its fantasies fulfilled. So in this line of reasoning, dreams are not just a random assortment of discarded thoughts, but rather the truest sense of self that we can possibly be.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by cannibal_wotsit View Post
                    sorry to be off-topic but the two new forums in the affenknecht section don't open up on my computer. one of them is about the possible bug so just wondering if there's any connection? probably not seen as my pc is a piece of crap that is tempermental as hell but still....
                    So far, it seems to be fixed.
                    "Which is better, eternal happiness or a ham sandwich? It would appear that eternal happiness is better, but this is really not so! After all, nothing is better than eternal happiness, and a ham sandwich is certainly better than nothing. Therefore a ham sandwich is better than eternal happiness."

                    - Raymond M. Smullyan

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                    • #25
                      My first Rammstein concert was at the 2009 Skive Festival. Looking forward for the 2012 Herning concert

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                      • #26
                        I've seen them twice, the last time was the LIFAD tour when they went to the ACC in Toronto, and it was pretty incredible. I got floor tickets last time (and for their upcoming concert in May) and managed to push and shove my way to the front of the stage. It was so incredible, to be blasted with heat then with cold air, and the feeling of thousands of other fans behind you. The mosh pit was really fun too.

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                        • #27
                          Wife and I first saw them at the Brixton academy, 2 nights in a row Berlin Wuhlheide, Cardiff CIA Reise Reise tour. Dortmund 2 nights in a row, Mannheim following night, Berlin 2 nights in a row Wulhheide, sonisphere LIFAD tour. Friedrichshaffen, Munich, London O2, Dublin O2 so far on MIG tour ( got tickets for Dallas, San Antonio, and Houston.) Would loved to have seen them on Mutter tour (just to have heard my favourite tune Halleluja) A music lover all my life never has a band had such an effect on me (us)
                          Last edited by Neil; 05-11-2012, 12:55 PM.

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                          • #28
                            At the front row -which I had at both shows- the flames were beautifully painful at some points, it would stop a moment after I start to feel the burn getting unbearable, well thought out.
                            Visually and in the context it was beautiful and stunning.

                            I met with the online fan club forum people and some others who showed up to stand in line around 8 or 9 am, the day was incredibly fun as they were also long time fans and very cool company.
                            One of them had made that flag which is basically the Rammstein RT logo where the lone star would be, nicely made (Click to enlarge)


                            Before the encore Paul Landers (guitarist) had made several eye contacts with us and we knew he saw the flag but when he ran down to sign it we were still too struck by how nice and cool that was, here it is after the show:

                            I can't think of highlights of the show cause the whole set was amazing, I will never forget a moment of it.
                            I sang every word and headbanged so hard I couldn't move my neck after words.
                            In Links 2, 3, 4 my friends remarked that could hear my singing as loud as the band, that was awesome hehe
                            I drove the next day 4 hours to Houston, no voice and entire body aching from the struggle of remaining at the front row through the show from the night before, it was so much harder in San Antonio cause a bunch of people right behind us were really trying to break through to the front and we had to spend most of the concert positively spending energy just to keep them from it.
                            In Houston I had my digital camera with me so I took a few snaps:


                            Bigger crowd in Houston, this was taken about 15 minutes after the door were opened, the entire venue was packed by the time Rammstein hit the stage. Front row again :biggrin:




                            Energy drained; I probably wasn't as loud as I was on the San Antonio show and my neck couldn't move as rapidly but still, it was just as much fun!
                            I hate filming or taking pictures at a concert, my take is that someone else is doing it so I'll just check their uploads out on youtube. But this was the second concert in a row and I thought okay maybe I'll take a few shots since I know when exactly is the best time to kick back and do it. So I used my digital camera to take a full video of Feuer Frei and Mein Teil and few stills during Engel.








                            One of the fan club guys took this nice shot of exhausted me still rocking out near the end hehe


                            At the Houston show there was a wall of big guys with their girlfriends behind us so they blocked most of the pushing and the pressure off me and I was more relaxed physically, I don't know if it was just luck but in both nights the people I paired with to hold front lines were as big as me and I loved hanging out with them.
                            During Keine Lust I was singing along and pointing at the people I met (most of them in the pictures) as I sang along Ich hätte Lust mit grossen Tieren, which means to be I like it with big animals :lol, a couple of people got it and laughed. I'm one myself and comfort among my own heh
                            All the people I met connected via facebook and shared all of the pics I posted here and more. I met people from here, Alaska, New York and Virginia, of various ages and races, the Alaskan guy is a native one, first time meeting one for me! Very nice and so damn friendly. He and his wife saw Rammstein 7 times on this U.S. tour, felt like a slacker when I heard that :lol
                            3 nights of unfiltered awesomeness, unforgettable.
                            There's so much more details so I might post more on the subject and about my close attempt to get into the after party and meet the band but this post is already verging on tldr.

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                            • #29
                              Amazing pics, amazing memories... I would love another tldr post I read them anyway.

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                              • #30
                                Great photos, especially the Engel one. Thanks for sharing.

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